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Discussion in 'Suggestion Box & Feedback' started by Phases, Jan 13, 2011.

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Removing All Things Root Quicklinks from Home Page

  1. Remove whole section.

    57 vote(s)
    29.2%
  2. Remove just devices - require click through to view. (figure 3)

    55 vote(s)
    28.2%
  3. Keep it.

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  4. I don't care.

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  1. Phases

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    Ok. It seems I was not very clear on the first poll, and as a result the votes are unreliable. So - I apologize for asking everyone to vote again, but I just need to clear some things up.

    What I'm talking about doing is removing JUST the "All Things Root" shortcut links on the forum home page - androidforums.com. (as shown in figure one)

    Figure One:
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    The actual "All Things Root" sub-forums (as shown in figure 2) in various device areas will stay. All the quick links do are provide a quicker way to get there from the home page. However, if one utilizes the favorite forums column (also shown in figure 2) - they will have all the shortcuts from the homepage they want, right at the top.

    Figure 2:
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    Now, as you can see up in figure 1, I suppose there are a couple options. Remove the entire "All Things Root" section (which is what I planned on doing), or optionally, just keep the actual device links from showing under it - and make is so you click into it to see the list of phones. (It functions this way now, click the All Things Root heading, you'll see.) This seems pointless to me as at that point you can just click into your device in the phone section, but that's just me. This idea is represented in figure three.

    Figure 3:
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    This is an issue because when we complete the subforums debate - what we decide to do standard for phone forums will be done for all current devices and all new devices. One thing is known.. All Things Root will become a sub-forum for all devices by default.

    So, as new phones come out, not only will they add length to the main page by adding a new device in the phone section, but they would also add length to the main page by adding a new device in the "All Things Root" quicklinks area.

    I find this area no longer needed, extra upkeep, and the "favorite forums" feature to be a suitable replacement should one want one-click access to their rooting subforum. Therefore.. I really hope everyone goes for complete removal.. but have decided to solicit opinions.

    I hope this helps clear things up. If unsure, ask before voting.

    Thanks all!
     

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  2. Frisco

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    I voted to "remove just devices" (option #2 but figure #3 ;)) as I think that root sub-forums should be represented in that main menu, but not each device individually linked right there because of the huge clutter/space issue in that menu.
     
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    I actually agree with this new solution and have swayed my vote to it, if it makes browsing the forum easier.
     
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    Im going to have to side with frisco on this one. And maybe you got a new writer here for you phases. Friscos explination was pretty clear ;)
     
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    My thinking says to get rid of the "All Things Root" section with every available phone. It just seems smarter and more streamlined to group all subforums with their respective phones. It's like one-stop shopping, everything you need in one location.
     
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    + 4 Some people might have multiple devices and they might only want to go to the root subforums for these devices only.
     
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    If I had multiple devices, that would probably be me too :)
     
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    Well, I guess I'll be going against the group on this one (peer pressure, what peer pressure?). I think the main page is busy enough without adding more and more links to it as more subforums are added. I prefer complete removal and let the users set up 'favorite forums' if they'd like quick links to the root section of their preferred device(s) (I may prefer this for the simple fact that that's the way I'm set up myself). It will make the main screen cleaner and the users can still quickly get to the subforum of their choice.
     
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    Im with Frisco, dont the main page clutter but do need the actual linkage to be there
     
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    keep the all things root on main page, but remove the sub links. too much clutter. or if possible make it user defined sublinks. I do use the Droid, droid x adn fascinate sublinks often
     
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    In terms of quicklinks, remove the whole section. Not a fan of quicklinks on the main page.

    However rooting is a big part of Android culture...just as much as Accessories, Media, and Themes imo. I think a forum dedicated to rooting would be cool. There could be development discussion, ideas exchanged, etc. The support/question/ROM threads would stay in their respective phone sub-forums.

    That's a different monster for another time though.
     
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    Just curious, where would the Suggest New go? I don't think we, as a staff (based on numbers alone), would be able to keep track of every single device out in the Android world to see when they are rooted.
     
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    All things root will become a standard subforum for all devices upon creation of the main forum.
     
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    Even if the device isn't rooted though? Are we just gonna lock that particular subforum if that is the case and then unlock it for posting as soon as its rooted?
     
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    Eh, they can talk about how to root it or when will it be rooted, or it can sit unused. :)
     
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    Gotcha :)

    Edit: BTW, I think this time's poll results seem much more accurate haha ;)
     
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    I'm a minimalist. I voted #1. I think the opening page is too confusing especially for newbies. I always wondered why there were the root quick links. It took a while to figure the whole thinking out. Easier is better. Just my .02. I hope my fellow guides/mods don't hate me for it. :D
     
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    +1, Steve, I agree with you.
     
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    Actually, whatever YOU vote, I agree. (You got the gun! :eek: :p)
     
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    Almost even: (As of 8:30pm Central Time) about 43% want it to stay (keep it and remove just devices combined), and about 41% want it gone (the other 16% don't care). ;)
     
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    Pretty much my thought as well.

    They are all still listed under the individual phone section so I just see this as being repetitive.
     
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    I'm not in complete disagreement with that. But what makes me move away from the idea of taking it out altogether, not even leaving a link to the ATR devices list, is that it's just one more little gateway to special sections of this site which members use.

    We could have a poll about taking out any one of those gateways and we'd see similar numbers because people in forums specialize their usage of the place.

    Even if we discount the numbers in the first poll on this, and only look at the new poll here, we're seeing about half of those responding wanting to keep it (combining the link only votes with the link and list votes).

    That might represent a lot of people if we consider that poll respondents comprise a percentage of the overall population of a forum (as an aside, those who really don't care don't vote ;)).
     
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    My vote to keep the link isn't even for existing members. Its for web trawlers and newbies, to direct them easier if they find the whole thing a bit much. The problem is, that is imeasurable.
     
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    +1.. it is not truly measurable (unless we analyse server logs), but it's sure a very logical notion.

    Also, even if it were a minority of members who want to keep it, those members should not have to lose it just because many other members find it not needed.
     
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    Well we just have to try to weigh the benefit for how many vs the cumbersome-ness for how many.

    Also, hiding it so members don't see it, but it technically still being there (and usable if you know the URL) for spiders to crawl is easy.
     

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