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  1. SpookiePower

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    I have some problems with playing movies on my Incredible S. In the first few days all the movies I did play, was running smoothly. But now they all seems to lag a bit - but sound works just fine.

    I have tried to convert them from VOB/AVI to m4v, using handbrake, changing the bitrate, changing the size of the file from between 600mb-150mb, but all of them seems to run with a little lag.

    I have tried these players - RockPlayer, DoubleTwist, MoboPlayer and VitalPlayer Pro.

    I can't imagine the all these players are not good enough to play these movies, so I guess it must be my phone - or me, when I convert the movies to a single file.

    Someone out there who can help here ?
     

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    If your videos are in AVI, you probably don't have to convert them.
    For VOB files, I would also use Handbrake to convert them.
    Please use MP4 container instead of M4V.

    Download MeidaInfo, open the converted file, select the text output format and copy the information displayed here. We can see then if the parameters used are correct.
     
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    When I use Handbrake, I select M4V, but I'll try to the MP4 next.

    I guess you mean MediaInfo :) I'll try it.
     
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    This one is not running smoothly -

    Video
    ID : 1
    Format : AVC
    Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
    Format profile : Main@L3.0
    Format settings, CABAC : Yes
    Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
    Codec ID : avc1
    Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
    Duration : 41mn 42s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 1 009 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 568 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate mode : Constant
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.099
    Stream size : 301 MiB (86%)
    Writing library : x264 core 112
    Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=2 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x1:0x111 / me=hex / subme=6 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=0 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=3 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=0 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=1009 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=3 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00
    Color primaries : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M
    Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
    Matrix coefficients : BT.601-6 525, BT.1358 525, BT.1700 NTSC, SMPTE 170M

    Audio
    ID : 2
    Format : AAC
    Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
    Format profile : LC
    Codec ID : 40
    Duration : 41mn 42s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 160 Kbps
    Maximum bit rate : 313 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Channel positions : Front: L R
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 47.7 MiB (14%)
    Language : English
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00

    Text
    ID : 3
    Format : Apple text
    Codec ID : text
    Duration : 41mn 42s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 0
    Stream size : 138 Bytes (0%)
    Encoded date : UTC 2011-04-04 05:51:04
    Tagged date : UTC 2011-04-04 06:40:00


    This one, is running just fine - is there any different between the two movies ?

    General
    Complete name : G:\Movies\Alt Om Loeb 02.avi
    Format : AVI
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    File size : 201 MiB
    Duration : 24mn 38s
    Overall bit rate : 1 137 Kbps
    Writing library : VirtualDub build 32839/release

    Video
    ID : 0
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
    Format settings, BVOP : 1
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Muxing mode : Packed bitstream
    Codec ID : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint : XviD
    Duration : 24mn 38s
    Bit rate : 1 000 Kbps
    Width : 624 pixels
    Height : 352 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 16:9
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.182
    Stream size : 176 MiB (88%)
    Writing library : XviD 1.2.1 (UTC 2008-12-04)

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 3
    Mode : Joint stereo
    Codec ID : 55
    Codec ID/Hint : MP3
    Duration : 24mn 38s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 22.6 MiB (11%)
    Alignment : Split accross interleaves
    Interleave, duration : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
    Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
    Writing library : LAME3.98.4
     
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    LOL, yes I meant MediaInfo. :)

    Yes, the encoding is much complexer in the first video. However, it is also more efficient by utilizing a more modern codec.

    OK, regarding the first video, you have made the encoding unnecessarily complex. Here is what I'd suggest to do:

    * Choose a standard profile in Handbrake - Set it to "Universal"
    * Video - Format settings, CABAC : Yes - Set this to "No".
    * Video - Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames - Set this to "2".
     
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    Thanks :) I'll try it later today :)
     
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    Also, you should be using the baseline codec version of h264, not Main@3.0.

    This also could be your problem. it looks like this video has, or had, DRM on it at one point.
     
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    I don't think he can manually change it in Handbrake.
    However, by selecting a "lighter" preset (like Universal), the profile of the converted video gets automatically adjusted to Baseline.
     
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    I am using h264.

    DRM...I can't see any where to turn it on/off
     
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    I'm trying the Universal right now. Before I used the Regular.
     
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    yes, but you are using the Main h264 codec. You need to use the Baseline codec. In handbrake, try using the Normal profile instead of the High or Film profile.

    You cant just "turn it off". It's copy protection put there by apple to prevent you from viewing it on devices other than itunes/ipod/ipad. You will have to find a way to remove it, you can search on google for some advice.
     
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    I have been using the Normal profile all the time, that I have used Handbrake - and I have had problems with those settings.

    Are you saying that if I use other settings, than the Regular, on a Android, I will get problems because of Appels copy protection ?

    Now I'm trying the Universal profile, Like Usta told me to do. I'll wait for the result of this convertion, to see if it helps.
     
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    No. Handbrake does NOT put on the Apple drm, apple does. What i was saying is that the video file you have already has drm.
     
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    I have tried to convert a few films now, using the Universal profile - it works :) All films runs just perfect - but the new problem is, that I can't add a subtitle. Well, I still have to option in Handbrake, but on my Andriod the subs are gone, even when I select "Burned In".
     
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    Subtitles has some limitations in Handbrake, depending if they are internal or external or the type of the subs. Some of them (for example SRT or CC) cannot be burned on the video.
    Just try to experiment with them and with different players.
     

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