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DTV on the Moment... Possible reason for update/firmware delays?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by SlyFerret, Jan 5, 2010.

  1. SlyFerret

    SlyFerret Android Enthusiast
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  2. AndroidSPCS

    AndroidSPCS Android Expert

    Interesting, thanks for the info.
     
  3. SlyFerret

    SlyFerret Android Enthusiast
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    I tweeted back at them to find out if maybe the existing Moments that have been sold already have this DTV chip in them, but I haven't gotten any response back.

    With my luck, it will be an updated version of the Moment hardware. Which would suck, considering the device was only out for a couple months.

    -SF
     
  4. mysticmead

    mysticmead Android Expert

    from what I was reading on that... it appears that the current Moments do NOT have the DTV chip in them
     
  5. agent0014

    agent0014 Android Enthusiast

    The article above? It seems a bit vague to me. Do you have other sources for this assumption?
     
  6. momentoid

    momentoid Android Enthusiast

    Typically a company's attention is dedicated to CES where multiple new products are show cased. To avoid diverting attention from these major product announcements, minor updates will not be announced even if they are ready. If there is one, I don't expect a bug fix release for Moment until the later half of the month.
     
  7. momentoid

    momentoid Android Enthusiast

  8. mysticmead

    mysticmead Android Expert

    both those quotes came from, here.. Samsung Moment Exclusively From Sprint Selected As First Mobile Phone To Demonstrate Mobile Digital Tv Chip At International Ces 2010 Samsung Newsroom
     
  9. mysticmead

    mysticmead Android Expert

  10. indiana jones

    indiana jones Member

    so it doesnt have it? EARLY ADOPTER FAIL!
     
  11. SlyFerret

    SlyFerret Android Enthusiast
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    Everybody want's to be like the iPhone.

    -SF
     
  12. mysticmead

    mysticmead Android Expert


    no... everyone wants to be BETTER than the iPhone...
     
  13. AndroidSPCS

    AndroidSPCS Android Expert

    It says it's being test marketed in DC & Baltimore, so it may be a while before this is rolled out nationwide. I figure by the time this is rolled out nationwide, I'll be eligible for my one year Sprint Premier upgrade anyway, so not a big deal.

    I'm going to enjoy my awesome Moment for now, and look forward to the next awesome phone when I'm eligible for upgrade.
     
  14. SlyFerret

    SlyFerret Android Enthusiast
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    Android is certainly better than the iPhone, in my book!

    I still can't help but to compare this in my mind to the iPhone price drop a couple years back.

    -SF
     
  15. indiana jones

    indiana jones Member


    lol yea that happened to me. fortunately apple sent me back 100 bucks. i wouldnt mind a new moment with dtv being released if they would have provided better support for this phone which is apparently now the ugly stepchild. this moment just keeps getting better :)
     
  16. mysticmead

    mysticmead Android Expert

    that $179 pricing is the 2 year contract after the $50 instant and after that $100 mail in... or just go to bestbuy.com and get it for $99
     
  17. dkjones96

    dkjones96 Android Enthusiast

    Dammit. It's like the Q and the Q9c. The Q(which I got the day it came out) got abandoned like 6 months later for the 'cooler' Q9c which had WM6 but was essentially the same phone.

    Gotta admit though, even though DTV would be cool I'd never use it. With the ability to store 16GB of commercial free shows why would you bother finding a local station that you couldn't even watch after you get on the plane? Couldn't pause to do something real quick or anything like that. Sounds cool at first but isn't really that great... to me anyways.
     
  18. Well that means that the phone will get updates now. If not and the "new" moment is only getting updated, I pay the 14 bucks a month for insurance, so my phone is getting broke.
     
  19. fopp

    fopp Newbie

    as do i but....theres also a 50 dollar deductible if i remember correctly
     
  20. dkjones96

    dkjones96 Android Enthusiast

    $100 for our phones.
     
  21. CriticalCritic

    CriticalCritic Android Expert

    Still worth it if they abandon updates for ours. Though I don't see why they would differentiate.
     
  22. agent0014

    agent0014 Android Enthusiast

    Agreed. I highly highly doubt that the update would even be separate between the current moment and the one with the DTV tuner chip. The differences between the two versions would be so slight that it wouldn't make any business sense to put the energy into two different updates, rather just one update that would install everything, including a few drivers that would go unused on our current version. I can speak from firsthand experience that that's the way tech companies operate when it comes to updates... anything else would be a waste of resources.
     
  23. SlyFerret

    SlyFerret Android Enthusiast
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    I'm really thinking that this is why the Moment has taken a back seat to the Hero. They've been waiting to start the publicity push for the Moment at CES.

    -SF
     
  24. momentoid

    momentoid Android Enthusiast

    Having worked with and knowing how much effort goes into adding a whole new chip/subsystem on an electronic board already in production, I think all Moments have the TV chip incorporated. Just not supported in software. Yes, even after reading the aforementioned news article. Just replace "TV chip" with "TV chip support" in the news article. My guess is this feature will eventually be supported in software release, may or may not be in Android 2.1 update by June, but hardware is there. In fact, that piece of software may already be included in the current release on all these devices and can be flipped ON with a bit in the Sprint Profile/PRL, thus easily enabling it for the Washington/Baltimore customers. JMHO.
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    Device manufacturer confirms: No DTV chip in Samsung Moment currently being sold since Nov 1. http://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS. Well, so much for the hope of early adopters.
     
  25. gblinckmann

    gblinckmann Newbie

    If the DTV Moment is to ship Q1, wouldn't this have to run Android 2.1? Would they really do DTV on Cupcake? I'm guessing when this comes out, we all get the 2.1 upgrade for the "legacy" Moments.
     

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