None of the phone you listed are similary speced to the epic touch. The epic touch has a larger, better display than all of those, a larger battery than all of those, thinner and lighter than all those, a faster next gen processor, hdmi/mini USB combo jack. This WILL increase the price off contract. They are not trying to cut you any deals off contract because they don't want you to buy it off contract so don't expect a price anywhere near last years model phones. This will be the best phone on sprint easily into next year and sprint knows this better than anyone so they're not going to give it away when 70% of their current customers are already freaking out over not being able to pre order it. Don't you wonder why they havent announced off contract pricing yet? They want to see demand first.