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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by timyarb, May 9, 2010.

  1. timyarb

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    Now that I ahve rooted and done the 2.1 update 2 days later Verison plans to update the phone. my question is is there a way to urn on the OTA update for the rooted Eris? If not then I am sure there will be an updated ROM that covers all the OTA stuff, but I was just wondering if there was a way to turn on OTA.
     

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    you actually WANT to lose root on your phone?! :eek:
     
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    Don't lose root! Or if you're going to lose root, I'll trade you phones and you can update mine to the official 2.1 and I'll gladly play with the rooted one. :cool:
     
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    Root is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY (x30) better than official shit. And yes u can always downgrade to 1.5 and then OTA update
     
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    Wait for the OTA to come out. Odds are, a rooted version will be out not too long after.
     
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    this is what im waiting for.
     
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    Simplified answer. Don't update to OTA. The ROM developers will get a copy of the OTA and mod it to work with root. Will probably get to you faster than you would wait to get the official OTA that would unroot your phone.
     
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    so I am on 2.1v3...there is no way for me to root it at this time?

    If I wanted root on my phone...what is my best course of action?
     
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    You either have to have a phone that is running 1.5 or wait until someone figures out a way to root from 2.1. Those are your two options.
     
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    Hey guys thanks for the replies. But noone really answered my question. But I suppose in retrospect I dont know if anyone really can answer it.

    To reply to you guys ... Sorry Root really doesnt mean a whole lot to me though. I was more interested in the 2.1 update and everything working right more than I ever was for a rooted phone. So all in all I am more interested in getting the full updated fixes and what not in the OTA update than keeping the phone rooted. I will never be putting home brew ROMs on the phone and truthfully I doubt I will spend the time to remove the bloat apps anyway.

    However I will say that if the OTA update gets hacked and put out there faster than the OTA will get to my phone I am cool with that as well. But my primary concern is the 2.1 enhancements and fixes. I waited until literally this past Sunday (I have had my Eris since January) and finally got fed up waiting for the OTA and I rooted and no shit the next day they announce the OTA is coming. How is that for Irony
     
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    You literally have typed my words exactly timyarb. I gave up waiting and rooted using the EMA on Sunday night. I am happy with the Eris Official Rom. My understanding is that it is exactly the same (or nearly) as the OTA. Here's why I won't take the OTA

    1) keeping the phone rooted will allow me to update latest android releases once Verizon stops supporting the Eris. My understanding is that getting new ROMs will easy. Reading the root forums, some guys are rocking 2.1 on first gen android phones because of root. There is no guarantee they will root the OTA 2.1.

    2) tethering. I really don't see a current need to tether, but it's a nice feature to have that will not be on the OTA.
     
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    to disable ota from a rom a file called otacerts.zip is renamed to something else so the phone doesn't update. some people also delete the systemupdater.apk from the rom. You could put the systemupdater.apk and rename the file back to otacerts.zip and I assume you would get the OTA which is what you were asking i think. although I agree you will have much better options in the future with updgrades then you will get from verizon if you keep root.
     
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    Thanks Conap that was exactly what I was looking for. But I think you guys may have convinced me, since I am sure we all know this will be the last real update from Verizon due to the Eris going EOL this month (you can see it is already on the clearance rack at verizonwireless.com) I think the minor updates I will get from the OTA pale in comparison to being able to update thanks to you guys at a later time.
     
  14. TheMortallyWounded

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    As I am sure you are well aware, there are two tethering apps available from Android Market still, EasyTether and PDAnet. Though yes, I understand that you can tether for free with root, both apps are a one-time-only fee. I paid the measly $18.99 for the "expensive" PDAnet, and am rocking it right now.

    Why do I bother tethering? It's actually the ONLY reason I bought the Eris. Where I live, there is no broadband connection. The amount of data I transfer is minimal. But a dialup connection is shoddy at best, so I opted for the whole package.

    Back to the point, yes, you can tether with a completely "legit" (no root, official 2.1 OS) Eris. But considering that Verizon, like most providers, frown on any tethering other than their ridiculously overpriced MONTHLY fees, it isn't completely legit.

    Just wanted to point that out (again) to anyone who reluctantly thinks about rooting solely for the purpose of tethering. It does come in handy in certain situations.
     
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    Once this update is released, yes, it is probably the last we'll ever see from either the carrier or the manufacturer. But if it isn't enough before you upgrade your phone, rest assured the root will be available by the time you want MOAR!!!

    I'll bet that these little Eris devices will hold their own quite well over the next 18-24 months in the hands of responsible users. So far, I'm impressed with mine, and come April 2012 I'll be ready for the next big thing, probably some 4GHz, 4G monster smartphone that unfolds its flexible 3D LED screen with forward- and rearward-facing 10 megapixel cameras, stereo Polk Audio speakers, and a built-in coffeemaker. :cool:
     
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    I rooted about a month ago and it has been very buggy for me so I want to downgrade to stock so I can get the ota update. How is an easy way to downgrade to 1.5 or to allow my phone to get the ota up day? Btw I have a Mac computer thanks
     
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    What's worth mentioning is that rooted phones give you WiFi tethering - I don't know if non-rooted 2.1 Eris users can do WiFi tethering. This is pretty important - being able to leave your phone in your pocket while you use your laptop is a great feature - cutting the cord and all that.

    Also, WiFi tethering allows you to connect many devices, since it acts as an AP - We had several Nintendo DSes connected to my Eris playing online games, can't really do that with a hard line.
     
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    For me, I can't say enough good things about having root access. Coming from an IT background, it's a MUST for me to have admin permission on my devices if at all possible.

    Also, keep in mind that the latest leak 4 (leak4base ROM) and other ROM's built from it contain the same software and radio version as the official 2.1 OTA. So in other words, you won't really gain much of anything with the OTA and you will lose ALOT by losing root access.

    The 2.1 OTA root version will surely be out soon, and don't forget this. 2.2 will be rolled out before long to the Moto Droid and Nexus 1 which means leaked versions of 2.2 could be released for the Eris. If you lose root, you won't be able to test them out (and I've heard that 2.2 is SUPER fast compared to 2.1).

    And ferrocene is right. WiFi tethering alone is worth keeping root for!
     
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    That is something I had forgotten about. With a Wii here in the house and my friend's daughter's DS, that would be kinda nice to have. Then again, I don't play Wii, and why does a six-year-old need me to come over to the house so she can play online? Besides, she hasn't picked the thing up more than twice since she got it, though she practically begged for one.

    Besides the point. Anyway, if the need for WiFi tethering ever arises, I know where to go. :cool:
     
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    Very true. And, there are other tethering solutions that don't require root (i.e. PDAnet, etc).
     
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    Can someone confirm that they have successfully received the OTA 2.1 after downgrading their rooted Eris to 1.5?

    I am patiently awaiting that OTA for my wife's Eris, and I will then patiently await the root for that official 2.1 release. All this while I IMPATIENTLY TAP MY FEET in anticipation of Froyo for my Droid :)
     
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    I do want to unroot - all I needed from this phone was google voice nav - so I rooted. I'd like to just go back to unrooted stock but can't find any directions. I don't need to tether or anything else.

    Michelle
     
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