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Discussion in 'Gaming' started by Pryomancer, Aug 15, 2010.

  1. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Android Enthusiast
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    Anyone play EVE Online?

    If not, well, I guess the normal response would be to say that you simply must play it because it's amazing and one of the best games ever.

    But really, EVE is deep, rich, and complex. It takes skill, patience and intelligence to play EVE. Anyone with a double-digit IQ can play WoW or LoTRO or whatever, those games basically tell you what to do. The story is set out, and you follow it when the quest tells you to free 5 slaves (make sure they're the ones being raped by the dickwolves), or kill that band of orcs, whatever goal it is.
    EVE has missions, (I haven't played long, I believe they do go up to more advanced play), but they help you get started, aimed more at new players, from what I see. Regardless, missions are just there, not a part of the main game.

    EVE is one big sandbox. Other MMO's have servers that are pretty much separate from each other. What you do in one has little to no impact on the other(s). EVE is a single 'shard' universe, everyone plays in the same game space.
    This allows what some might call the Butterfly Effect. You know, you go back in time and kill a seemingly innocuous butterfly, but that action could end up having enormous repercussions.
    You might do something small, saving a mining ship from some pirates, for example, which could instigate a series of events that lead to a full blown war which affects every single person in the game, directly or indirectly. Yeah, wars happen, and literally thousands of players can be involved. Cooool.

    Another thing about EVE is the economy. It has a real, player driven economy. I personally find it fascinating, perhaps others don't.
    Almost everything in EVE is player made. Ships, ammo, modules (things that fit to ships, guns, mining lasers etc), all that stuff. This creates a genuine supply-and-demand economy model. CCP, the company that makes EVE, actually employ a real economist who writes quarterly reports about the game's economy. Amazing.

    Let me tell you about some cool things that have happened in EVE. These events are pretty famous, sort of like that bug in WoW where a whole city got infected by some disease spell from a raid boss getting passed onto everyone. But these aren't glitches, they're part of the game. Learning about these events is what attracted me to play EVE in the first place.

    I'll start with a smaller one. In EVE, you have PLEX. You can buy these from other players, which allow you to extend your subscription to the game by 30 days. Basically you don't have to pay real money. CCP still makes money because PLEX have to be bought with real money themselves from the company. The player can then sell them for ingame money to other players.
    A player had 74 PLEX in his/her possession, and for some reason decided to take a decrepit old ship into lawless space (very dangerous). Predictably, they were destroyed and lost it all. The PLEX totalled roughly $1700 in real life money.

    This next is my favourite out of the 3 events I'll explain here. In EVE you can have corporations. They are similar to guilds or clans in other games. But they are that- corporations; they have a function within society. There are different types, decided by the player who made it, not by some option the game provides. Some are mining corps, others are smugglers, pirates, etc.
    This company involved in the event I'm explaining was called GHSC (Guiding Hand Social Club). They specialised in corporate assassinations and infiltrations, and mercenary work. They received a contract to kill the CEO of a very large corp.
    Now, just rushing the place with a load of ships wouldn't work, this place was heavily defended.
    What they did was much, much more effective.
    Over the course of a year, (yes, you read that correctly), they infiltrated the corp. They gained ranks and ended up in trusted positions within the corp. When everything was ready, they started the operation. In just a few hours the entire corp was liquidated, its assets were all sold and other things to maximise the profit. What's more, the corp CEO (leader) was persuaded to go into lawless space (dangerous) with their most expensive ship, carrying their most valuable objects, just to show off their wealth and power. Some of these objects were blueprint originals. These are original documents for designing ships and other stuff, unbelievably valuable. It was destroyed and the CEO was killed. In total, GHSC stole billions of ISK (the ingame currency). In real life, this was worth about $16,500. Not only that, but the stuff lost took years to acquire, too.
    The entire occurance was completely within game rules. As far as I know, no-one was banned or anything for this.

    The last one is less impressive than the previous, but I left it til last for the wow factor.
    A player made himself a bank corp. He offered competitive interest rates and other incentives, and soon lots of players started depositing money. After four months, yes you guessed it, he took off with all the current deposits and flew away. In total he snagged something like 790 billion ISK. In real money? $170,000. Mind blowing, and again, completely within game rules. I believe there was a serious amount of controvery with this, the player may or may not have been banned, and then unbanned again after pressure from general players. Still, mighty interesting.

    So that is why EVE Online is such a brilliant game. I've been playing less than two weeks and already I can see how deep and complex it is.

    I consider this forum to contain more intelligent people, on average, than most forums and other parts of the internet. Perhaps some of you might take an interest it in.

    If you are, you can do a 14 day trial from the site, or if you want, I can hook you up with a 21 day trial instead. If you do the 21 days, and then decide to purchase a full account, I get a free 30 day subscription extension, woo.

    So there, EVE Online is more or less unique in the MMO world. You can do whatever you want to. You could be a pirate, a trader, a miner, a politician, and more. EVE is whatever you want it to be.

    TL;DR? If you want a TL;DR, this game isn't for you.

  2. SB13X

    SB13X Android Expert

    I used to be heavily into EVE and even worked as a DJ for EVE Radio back in the games infancy. I was a bit of a pirate using donations of ISK for requests that should have gone into the stations prize fund for competitions to line my own pockets or to give back to the station through paying for my corps advert creation and advertising costs.

    The reason I say I was a bit of a pirate is that the corp I ran was BADI the Beginners Assistance and Defence Initiative that helped people starting out in the game as mining escorts etc. Allowing them to develop themselves into thriving players off their own steam for a cut of mined materials, which when sold allowed us to invest in Blueprints and medium class starships, to sell back to our members for a small profit as they progressed to the point of wanting to venture into lawless space.

    Some of the money from being a DJ also filtered into this venture.

    I might be convinced to restart playing if I can find some guaranteed game time but at the moment I am looking to get my EVE fix from the developments of Dust 514 the FPS planetside military aspect of EVE apparently coming to the Xbox.
  3. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    I read about Dust 514, it looks insane. I love the planned interaction the two games will have, I don't believe anyone's ever done that before. CCP really know how to innovate.
  4. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    EVE has been the only game I've been playing lately. I got in with Suddenly Ninjas and tend to have the most fun ninja-salvaging and ganking mission runners, can flipping, and finding/running wormholes. It's a great MMO and I love how cut throat it is. It isn't some hold-your-hand toddler MMO like WoW, in this game you are not safe anywhere.
  5. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    Yeah, I love how things that get you banned in normal MMO's are completely fine in EVE. :p
  6. turbosol16

    turbosol16 Android Enthusiast

    I played for about two to three years but I have been out of the game for about a year and a half now. I left right after wormholes were brought into the game. They still spam my inbox with offers to reactivate for free. It is very very tempting to come back but EVE is so involved I just don't think I have the time to commit anymore.

    Not to mention that my character is -10 and that grind is a pain in the arse if I ever wanted to leave low sec. Guess that is what alts are for though. So what is new and exciting for a old pirate to do now?

    Damn it now you have me thinking about rejoining just to break out the Moros and go down in flames.
  7. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    They've got planetary interaction, I think that's the biggest new addition since you left. I'm not in any position yet to have done it, but it seems pretty interesting.
  8. thomsonga

    thomsonga Newbie

    I've played EVE for a total of about 3 years over 3 separate "spells". Recently quit as I couldn't devote the time needed to actually achieve what I wanted in the game - plus I seemd to jinx every Corp I joined :(
  9. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    Scan down wormholes and kill the people inside! :D
  10. turbosol16

    turbosol16 Android Enthusiast

    When they were first introduced I got stuck in one because the server crashed. Logged back in the next day and no one was in the wormhole plus I didn't have a probe launcher. Had to self destruct and pod myself to get out. EVE was so much fun. lol
  11. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    That happened to me once before because I didn't bookmark the entrance wormhole once I got in system. I got my ship popped and just floated around in my pod for a while until eventually having to self destruct my pod to get out. :(

    Now that I actually have a good ship for clearing out wormholes, a dedicated scanner/salvager alt, and nice cloaks, wormholes are fun again. :D
  12. nudave

    nudave Newbie

    I played for about 3 weeks or so, maybe a year ago now. I would like to get back into it, but the learning curve was too great for me :\

    I was fine until the starting mission became too hard, and wasn't sure what to do next after my ships were destroyed.

    Any advice out there for nubs like me to help me get back into it?
  13. Pryomancer

    Pryomancer Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    I think the best thing is to just completely forget what you know about how normal MMO's are played. I'd say 99% of people play other traditional MMO's before moving on to EVE.

    Take it slowly to learn everything, too. EVE has so much to learn that I think a lot of people try to cram it all in the space of a few days, and it's overwhelming. Then they forget everything and make critical errors which could have been avoided but end up with them losing a lot of money.

    Most mmo's are designed for instant gratification. You log into WoW, armour up, go to a raid and get a load of expensive items. EVE isn't like that at all. You need a hell of a lot of patience and skill to do most things. That's why I love it.
  14. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    Ask questions in corp chat. Rookie chat always moved too fast for me and was really chaotic. The starter corps will be able to help you out immensely with any questions you have. Use BattleClinic - MMO guides - tools - advice - forums to get ideas on fittings for your ships.

    When in doubt, hit F12 and bring up the tutorials. They're well written and should help you get on the right track. Also, if you need a way to make great money for a new player that takes minimal skills, look up ninja salvaging.

    By the way, when your ship gets blown up and you're left sitting in a pod, just dock at a station and you get a new starter ship for free.
  15. harttach

    harttach Guest

    i play game in my vacation
  16. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

  17. nudave

    nudave Newbie

    Rota - your link isn't working :|

    I'll probably start up again tomorrow (Sunday). Going solo...
  18. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    I updated the link again. We had to refresh the killmail because of the massive amount of cargo that dropped.

    Once you get back into it and run through the tutorials, make sure to train up Salvaging and Astrometrics, then start ninja salvaging to make money. I'm not a fan of missions, but a couple good places to run them are Oursulaert and Rens. You'll make isk faster by ninja salvaging and most likely have more fun doing it. Dodixie is a great place to start ninja salvaging, as well as Agrallier (1 jump from Dodixie), Abudban, and Frarn (both right next to Rens).

    Have fun. You can add me in game if you'd like. My character is Kyle Shephard.
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  19. nudave

    nudave Newbie

    Just signed up for the 14 day free trial. Should be logging in sometime later tonight.
  20. Jeted

    Jeted Newbie

    I like EVE, but don't have time for it. Like you said, it's much more complex mmo then most other mmo's there. I think if I had time and if it wasn't for my overall liking for lots of gametypes. I might have sit down and played it, but since i got my love for many games. I simply don't have enough gametime to squeeze in for mmo's. :)
  21. Rota

    Rota Android Enthusiast

    What's nice though is that once you find your niche, you can generally get away with just spending a little time playing. On my lunch breaks I'll fire up my laptop and go cruise around a system looking to pop someone's ship.

    Now getting to that point where you find your niche, that's the time consuming part. Once you finish with the tutorials, the game basically smacks you on the ass, says good luck, and thrust you into a massive world with infinite options. Many MMO players that didn't start out on Everquest and instead play things like WoW or Star Trek Online are turned away pretty quick because of that.
  22. Foxgguy2001

    Foxgguy2001 Newbie


    I never knew why everyone called it spreadsheet online until I got hooked...
  23. CyberPitz

    CyberPitz Android Enthusiast

    I remember me and my friend were fighting sleepers, the WH closed when we entered, and realized neither of us had probe launchers. He was in a Brutix and I was in my Drake. We gave up, asked chat if anybody wanted to kill us, and the one in the WH found us an exit into null sec....40 jumps away from empire.

    So, me and my friend start the jumps...we make it pretty far without getting caught. At about 1/2 way, people gave chase, caught him and I just kept on jumping through. I got to the last gate, and hit a bubble. Guy in some Tech 2 frigate was trying to kill me, but we couldn't kill each other, so I payed him 25mil to let me go. He escorted me to the gate, and my friend hated me for getting away without losing anything.

    That will be the best time I've ever had in EVE...well, that and making over a bil on doing 10/10 plexes.
  24. turbosol16

    turbosol16 Android Enthusiast

  25. necosino

    necosino Android Expert

    I still play EVE: find me as HTC NecoSino :)
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