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  1. matt0715

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    What do you do after you break your contract, go to at&t? NOT!
     
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    "materially adverse change" ultimately means it creates an undue financial hardship. they can credit the difference of $.03 for the remainder of the contract ($.72 for a 24 month remaining) = hardship removed.

    good luck with this one.
     
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    They are not allowed to change anything in the contract you signed, since they did the contract is void, and I would stay on Verizon and just pay as I go until a new phone I want comes out! I would never go anywhere else than Verizon in my life
     
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    I will agree to disagree on your post.

    If you choose to cancel the contract, then your account is closed. Period. As per the article, if you use your service after the change of terms, then you are considered to be accepting the new terms.

    So, if you should cancel and then reactivate as month-to-month, VZW could legally pursue you in small claims court for the ETF... though I doubt they'd invest the time and legal fees.

    Besides, I doubt that ANYBODY could successfully argue that $.03 per month would create an undue financial hardship. I can probably find more than that in discarded change at any time.
     
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    Well its worth a shot ain't it?
     
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    Why would I want to cancel my contract? I have unlimited data (at least for now). Seems silly to me, unless I'm missing something. :thinking:

    If you read the comments, someone's friend tried to do just this, and Verizon asked him for proof of the hardship that this caused and then just credited him the $.03 every month and would not let him out of the ETF.
     
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    I've got friends who have wiggled out of their contracts without any of these types of games. Of course, they had legit reasons - not just wanting a newer phone. They went back to AT&T. Verizon is good, no doubt, but in some areas of the country, particularly on the West coast of FL, Verizon is no good at all.
     
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    If you do this then you may not be grandfathered into the unlimited data. No contract means no obligation on their part.
     
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    I don't want out. Not sure there is anything better out there. If I was that unhappy with my carrier I would pay the ETF and go. That's what I did with AT&T.

    If you terminate your contract like this you don't go month to month. Your account is closed and you go to another carrier. I'm pretty sure you can't port either so you may lose your number.
     
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    Simply re-sign up prior to 7/7
     
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    Where you at? :) I'm west coast all the way and get great coverage.
     
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    I got out of my Sprint contract when they raised some fee by a few cents, which counted as a materially adverse change. It took an insistent phone call, but it worked. We were able to port our numbers

    At least with Sprint, you could not avoid the ETF _and_ continue month to month. You had to leave Sprint for at least 6 mos or something.

    Still, if you want to leave Verizon all together, this is a good opportunity.
     
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    Porting = canceling.
     
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    I don't think they allow you to port your number because they close the account. Porting does cancel it but in this case you have to call and have them close the account first. So if you port first you'll be charged the ETF.
     
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    At least for Sprint we were able to port when we avoided the ETF due to a materially adverse change.
     
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    Good to know. Maybe. VZW rep can help here. Also, what is the policy when you cancel? Can you then sign up as a new customer? Is there a waiting period? I would imagine so.
     
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    I don't believe this is correct. Can anyone confirm with certainty?
     
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    So - why try to end a contract with unlimited data, only to re-sign up before 7/7 to enter a contract with unlimited data? What's the point? What am I missing? :thinking:
     
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    I did it with T-Mobile awhile back when I switch to AT&T before I had VZW, you just need to give VZW a heads up. I think they flag the account so when you do cancel it they won't charge the ETF.
     
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    Perhaps that's where my confusion lies. I don't want to leave Verizon.

    Though the OP states that he just wants to get out of his contract and stay with Verizon.
     
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    You may be right but I'd like a Verizon emp. to try to confirm this. To me a port = a cancelation. After the fact you get the ETF waived as the reason for 'canceling' was solely the contract term change.
     
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    To get a new phone early.
     
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    *edited for error*

    why can't I delete my own post?!
     
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    Unknown. Previous VZW Tech Support for 7 years.

    porting your number(s) will cancel your account on VZW. if you cancel first, you won't be able to port without reactivating the account...

    if you port, you'll have to call after the bill cycle ends and contest the ETF (it has to post to the bill in order to be credited)
     
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