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Executive Order to Deal With Guns

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by jefboyardee, Jan 9, 2013.

  1. Gmash

    Gmash Extreme Android User

    Yes, humans are evil, no argument there. Still, nobody is talking about taking guns away. The NRA will have a head exploding freak out if you try to change a magazine from 30 rounds to 29. Relax. This is America. Guns are ahead of baseball and apple pie in this country and they're not going anywhere.
     



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  2. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Extreme Android User

    It's not the case in the current system.
     
  3. pbf98

    pbf98 Android Expert

    I believe the president is talking about taking guns away, assault rifles, and other firearms that meet certain criteria.

    There is a gun ban proposal that would make my deer hunting gun illegal.. just because I outgrew it and had to put a collapsible stock on it.

    There is also another proposal that bans all assault rifles and some hand guns, but it doesn't stop there, and at the death of a gun owner, any and all firearms must be given to the authorities. They may not be passed to family or friends in memory of their loss... My dad has his fathers Remmington Model 870 from 1951, the very first year it came into production.. If that proposal came into action, that would mean it wouldn't get passed on to me like intended.

    Sure I don't think that would pass here, but yes there are people talking about taking guns away. Maybe not all, but any is too many already.
     
  4. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Android Expert

    IMO the greater issue here is a trend towards public officials who should act in the best interests of all the people they were hired to serve instead being bullied by the least informed, least rational but most vocal minority into doing things that are guaranteed to backfire.

    We have an extreme shortage of common sense...
     
  5. jhtalisman

    jhtalisman Well-Known Member

    Sounds like a description of the Tea Party.....
     
  6. Speed Daemon

    Speed Daemon Android Expert

    Yes it does, doesn't it? There are lots of parallels. The use of strong emotions rather than sound thinking as a motivator. The selfish beliefs that "my cause is more important than anything on earth". The threats. The utter ignorance of the very things that they're trying to change. It's the very worst of human behavior.

    There are good ways and bad ways to do things.
     
  7. copestag

    copestag Android Expert

    which ironically those descriptors all fit perfectly for Obama, Reid, and the rest of the left wing extremists as well

    so now we are in agreement that none of our elected officials from either side have a clue...... and we are still no closer to a solution for anything
     
  8. saptech

    saptech Android Expert

    We always seem to talk about solving gun tragedies when one occurs, but that’s always too late.
     
  9. Hipsigti

    Hipsigti Newbie

    yea it's called parents need to pay attention to their kids. these days parents throw money at them to shut them up and get them out of there hair. mexico has a 100% gun ban it has the highest murder rate per capita and had 55,000 deaths from violent murders. it is a fact if you look on the FBI website that violence has went down in america 49% since 1988 and gun violence is down also. i have to point out that one of the highest murder rates with guns in the country is obama's city of Chicago no guns equals more criminals with guns knives etc... another thing Obama was a constitutional attorney right? well he knows that executive orders are unconstitutional and are a end run around congress and who they represent the people. i seen a congressman saying he would bring Obama up on impeachment charges if he follows through and i think we all need to support him if he does because white black asian it is a power grab and infringing my rights where does it stop? if you want to ban guns do it the right way make an amendment to the constitution the lawful way.
     
  10. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Perhaps we need that to happen.

    A national gun roundup. Perhaps a national "Guns For iPhones" program. Trade in that rusty old Glock for a shiny new iPhone. Of course, it will be taken away at gun point by gangs.

    No private ownership of any and all guns and all gun stores closed.

    Perhaps then and only then, people who are violently anti-gun will see what can and will happen.

    Then we establish a national religion and we hire thousands of net nanny types to stomp on the First Amendment while we are at it. If we can change the laws that prevent a King, that would be perfect.

    A gun ban will not happen in my life. I am sad to say, it might happen at some point.

    The camel's nose is under the tent.
     
  11. pbf98

    pbf98 Android Expert

    So IF a mass confiscation of guns were to happen, would every gun owner be out all the money they spent on they're firearms over the years?

    Oh and what about all the jobs that would cease because of a ban on guns? Is the job market that good now that we say its alright to just destroy an industry that held its own throughout the whole recession and that employs a decent number of people.


    While they're at it (making plans to take away the 2nd amendment) why don't they just do what you say and just take away the first amendment at the same time.. once we lose the 2nd amendment we have nothing to stop them.

    Do you think it bothers military that are over seas fighting for our freedoms, that are currently being stripped away? I know it would sure bother me to know that the freedoms and rights I signed up to die for are being taken away.
     
  12. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Extreme Android User

    Why are we getting freaked out about confiscation of guns when we know it won't happen and we agree it won't happen?
     
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  13. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Yup. Money all gone. You should not have invested in all of those mass killing machines in the first place.

    Jobs? Why should the government worry about job creation and/or losses now? The killing business is no business to be in, do you not know that? I might add that it is probably not green, so the industry must go. Yup, the gun business is not green, just red, as in the streets that will run red with blood if we do not rid America of guns.

    I would like to think the military cares about the rights they are dying to protect. I will say most do.
     
  14. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Well, if you do not trust Uncle Sam, you can ague that these changes in the law are just a few more steps towards a ban. I agree with you. Chances are it will not happen.

    Obama is not King and if we elect a decent president, perhaps he or she will stem the tide.

    It is not what Obama did; it is all about the many small changes that slowly erode certain rights as well as his use of executive orders. If you are not watching carefully, things have a way of sneaking up on you.

    The size of the clip is not an issue. I seem to recall being able to load my Rugar Security Six quite quickly. The Speed Loader works well. As soon as a nut-bar kills a bunch of kids and he used a Speed Loader, expect to see those banned, too. The public will think that is just fine and another barrier is erected.

    So, gun bans? Not likely. Are there powers that be that want all guns gone? Bloody well right.
     
  15. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Extreme Android User

    But we're freaking out over something that hasn't happened and that we all agree won't happen. Yes, you have nuts who want all guns gone. But you also have nuts who want to hand out guns to everyone as well. You have nuts on both sides.
     
  16. Gmash

    Gmash Extreme Android User

    Because that's what they do. Scare the hell out of Bubba that the gubament is gonna take his shotgun away. And who benefits? Follow the money. The NRA and the gun lobby sit back and watch the millions roll in while laughing at the lemmings. Painfully obvious, but works Every. Single. Time.

    BTW, has anybody actually looked at these much maligned executive orders? Much ado about nothing.
     
  17. jerofld

    jerofld Fixing stuff is not easy

    Because history has a way of repeating itself. And who agrees that it won't happen? I certainly do not.

    Registration has lead to confiscation in many countries, including 'democracies' and 'republics'. New Zealand, the UK, Canada, Australia, and numbers of other countries used their registered gun lists to systematically confiscate their population's guns.

    Plus this has some interesting tidbits about it:
     
  18. ElasticNinja

    ElasticNinja Android Expert

     
  19. jerofld

    jerofld Fixing stuff is not easy

    Considering Eric Holder's and Barack Obama's stance on guns, I wouldn't be surprised if the DoJ actually did put that out. A fanatic's website may not be the best source, but it doesn't necessarily negate it.

    Do you actually think that CNN or MSNBC would have published it if they got their hands on it?
     
  20. copestag

    copestag Android Expert

    actually I think many did publish it........ and most if not all at the very least discussed it..... of course some only discussed it from the standpoint of covering it up

    it was an actual memo circulating within the dept........ it wasnt officially released...... and DOJ stated that it was a work in progress which was still being tweaked

    nobody tried denying it existed....... other than a few left wing fanatics who deny anything that may portray Obama negatively..... obviously some are still about I see

    as far as the source posted in this thread..... while I would agree that infowars isnt the most unbiased source of information...... I hardly think a person who routinely cites and thoroughly believes everything found on wikicrapia should be disparaging anyones sources
     
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