I think I understand why you're making the comparison between the Hummingbird and the A4 processor (in the iPad): I heard a rumor that Samsung produces the A4... <--- Is that correct info? Also, has it been confirmed that the A4 processors are just Hummingbirds w/ some slight changes? Sorry for questioning the underlying parts of your post, but I think we need to establish that before we move on to speculating about why the Hummingbird struggles where the iPad doesn't (apparently). As I type, I also realize we're moving more and more off topic too. Perhaps we should reclaim the original Extreme vs Incredible discussion. If not, perhaps the OP should request he mods to change the thread title accordingly.