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  1. sfbloodbrother

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    It does seem like a reoccurring theme that if you're wearing glass outside of your house, it's assumed you're breaking some law. :rolleyes:

    I can't even bring my pair to work because it's a security threat :banghead:
     
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    My thoughts before I read his had prescription lenses
    "Yeah he got what he had coming" :rolleyes:



    The addition of prescription lenses makes the scenario much more interesting, as he requires the device to view the movie.


    A second set of glasses would certainly have avoided the whole thing, but cases like these will test the norms and current laws.
     
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    I think that a version of Google Glass with no camera should be offered. I think that would eliminate a lot of the issues.

    My interest in the device is for the heads up display possibilities, especially for navigation and not for photography.
     
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    While the camera isn't bad, I would say it isn't very good overall. It's no where close to the quality of smartphones . However it is where I feel much of the hypocrisy exists. It's not like you can take a picture or video with glass without making it any more obvious than doing so on a normal smartphone.
     
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    I have not seen a Google Glass device in person. However, it might be possible to set up a tasker type macro that would snap pictures with an eye blink pattern or perhaps a fake sneeze sound. There seems to be some hysteria or an excuse to make things difficult, over the perception that photos or video could be taken without others realizing that it was happening.

    The real value of this device is the ability to view the smartphone screen heads up, not taking photos. Google needs to remove the camera and these problems would be solved.
     
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    I haven't played around too much with non native apps on my set, but the way the current version is set up it would require installing apps through adb. We all know that is not something the average know how to or wants to do. I also haven't used videos much, but every time I did it only recorded for 10-15 seconds before automatically stopping. I might not have the settings right, but I've only toyed lightly with video.
     
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    Are you permitted to discuss details regarding Google Glass?

    I am curious about the device. My desire is for a device that provides something like a Miracast link to the Smartphone and facilitates remote control of the Smartphone, but I'm not so sure that is what it does.

    The navigation might not be Google Maps at all but something much simpler like distances to the next turn and arrows for direction.
     
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    It's FBI, MPAA and Hollywood copyright enforcement isn't? Seems they'll go to any lengths possible.
     
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    There's no confidentiality agreement for having Glass, so I can discuss it without issues. While there doesn't currently exist ways to cast your smartphone screen to glass, you can cast glass to your smartphone screen. I would imagine the feature would be made eventually once enough developers get their hands on it. Under the Glass skin is fully functional 4.0.4 ICS which can be accessed by installing another launcher like nova through adb.
     
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    Oh that sucks. Do they think u can shoot lazers out of it? How can it be security threat if i may ask?





    That may work but that would just be letting the laws win. Now, sometimes the law is a good thing, but in cases like this its immoral how the FBI went about this situation. Arrested him without solid evidence that he was the suspect of the pireted movies and then forced him to give personal information.

    I think that google glass may change the laws we have today into more modern laws created for the technology of tomorrow.
     
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    Sensitive information with the camera. People are so paranoid with the camera that comes with it that it creates a false sense of paranoia that just spreads like wildfire.
     
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    He wasn't arrested, but I do think downloading his personal pictures without a search warrant goes too far.
     
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    He consented to having them look at the files, though he didn't have to. I do have to wonder how well they would have respected his 4th amendment rights had he refused.
     
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    Arrested, handcuffed, banged up and charged with suspected copyright infringement?
     
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    Yes. With no evidence. That's federal and I would have a lawyer in on this.
     
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    He wasn't arrested, he was questioned.

    Glass at this point is still so new people aren't used to it. Whether or not you (not pointing out anyone in particular, just "you") actually have the camera turned on, people are going to assume that at the very least you could be videotaping or taking photos of them. People assume you've got one of these strapped to your head:
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    As such, theres some etiquette to wearing glass that will limit people freaking out. A few examples from the top of my head:

    Situations people will find creepy- Don't wear them to a children's park, to the bathroom, changing rooms, pool ect
    Legality/Copyright Issues- Movie theaters, plays, concerts, sporting events, ect
    Confidentiality Issues- Work


    From Eric Schmidt himself way back in April of last year:
    "It's obviously not appropriate to wear these glasses in situations where recording is not correct. Companies like Google have a very important responsibility to keep your information safe but you have a responsibility as well which is to understand what you're doing, how you're doing it, and behave appropriately and also keep everything up to date."
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    The first part of that speaks the most to me.
     
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    But the thing is he "needed" them to see. So his only choices are to sit up REALLY close or just not go.

    At this point in time, Google is ahead of its time. (Way ahead). We need laws to innovate for the computer age.
     
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    Or just bring a normal pair of glasses. I get what you're saying, but when glass was announced... they clearly said "these are obviously are not to be worn anywhere where recording would be inappropriate."

    A movie theatre obviously counts as that
     
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    Yes, this is true.

    One day this may change, but for today, I guess Glass Explorers who need them to see will have to pay a bit more for an extra pair of glasses, or just not go to movies.
     
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    It's a shame, but it's a double standard. Smartphones have the ability to record video on them, but they don't prevent you or harass you for going to a movie if you own one. Just because the device can record video, doesn't that you're actually doing it. Besides, the screen would be on just like a smartphone would and someone would be able to tell that it is on in a dark theater.
     
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    In a way yes. Smartphones have invaded more peoples privacy than Glass has and it's one of those things that just doesn't make sense. The law just doesn't make sense anymore.
     
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    Thing is he wasn't arrested, but if he did exercise his rights to silence and refuse to cooperate, he probably would have been arrested and the Glass likely would got seized for investigation into suspected copyright infringement, which is a federal matter I believe. Yeh so get your lawyer.

    BTW I've seen people recording movies in theatres with cellphones and DV camcorders. Ever wondered why those crappy illegal "screener" and "cam" downloads often have Chinese subtitles?
     
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    Some people get nervous when you start pointing cameras around, whether it be Glass, cameraphone, etc. I've seen people put tape over the webcams in laptops, because they think it might be watching and recording. If I was using a laptop that wasn't mine and had no control of what was running on it, I'd be very tempted to cover the camera lens with tape. With Glass is there any way to tell if the wearer is recording or taking pictures, like a red light, a camera shutter sound etc.?
     
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    that was simply a misunderstanding to me as it can not be denied that google glass are coming with the snapping and recording potential so if someone use these facilities in wrongdoings then who will be responsive to put a check on .. FBI was doing its duty there, nothing else.
     

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