1. Download our Official Android App: Forums for Android!

Filed a class action lawsuit against T-Mobile and Samsung

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by dbldown, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. dbldown

    dbldown Lurker
    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    5
    Posts:
    9
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010

    Aug 25, 2010
    9
    0
    5

    Advertisement

  2. behold_this

    behold_this Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    143
    Posts:
    1,419
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009

    Nov 18, 2009
    1,419
    243
    143
    Yeah phandroid ran this article the other day. What a joke...these same people were calling behold owners whiners and cry babes for the same thing. They didn't learn from our mistakes and so they deserve what they got.
     
    deather, fenderman and suyash1 like this.
  3. DynamitePress

    DynamitePress Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    83
    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010

    Jun 6, 2010
    83
    19
    18
    True, but why not get onboard?
     
  4. fenderman

    fenderman Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    30
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010

    Feb 17, 2010
    30
    2
    16
    Customer assc.
    West central wi
    Agreed seems a little hypocritical to me lmao! But also agreed that we were in the same boat and things need to change maybe us behold owners should get onboard!!!
     
  5. dbldown

    dbldown Lurker
    Thread Starter
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    5
    Posts:
    9
    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2010

    Aug 25, 2010
    9
    0
    5
  6. fenderman

    fenderman Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    30
    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2010

    Feb 17, 2010
    30
    2
    16
    Customer assc.
    West central wi
    It is a hot topic because lsat year the behold 2 was promised android 2.1 even on a you tube promotional video and the galaxy s was arrived and the behold was left with android 1.6! Now the same thing is going to happen to the galaxy s phones promised an update and still waiting for it!!!
     
  7. AgentBrennier

    AgentBrennier Newbie
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    16
    Posts:
    20
    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2011

    Jan 12, 2011
    20
    2
    16
    Texas!
    This is interesting: m.lifehacker.com/5735622/the-android-phone-makers-that-deliver-on-upgrades
     
  8. fallenturtle

    fallenturtle Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    163
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009

    Nov 24, 2009
    163
    6
    36
    graphic designer
    San Francisco, CA
    At this point I think my next phone will be one of the one's directly administered by Google. Too bad the current one is also Samsung hardware.
     
  9. DynamitePress

    DynamitePress Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    83
    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010

    Jun 6, 2010
    83
    19
    18
    Yes but the Nexus S will not be subject to the same bullshit, it's a bit of a special case.
     
  10. fallenturtle

    fallenturtle Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    163
    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2009

    Nov 24, 2009
    163
    6
    36
    graphic designer
    San Francisco, CA
    It's still money going into Samsung's pocket.
     
  11. DynamitePress

    DynamitePress Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    83
    Joined:
    Jun 6, 2010

    Jun 6, 2010
    83
    19
    18
    Ah I see...I assumed you were simply trying to avoid the lack-of-upgrade problem. My dilemma is that in my opinion, Samsung makes the best phones out there--I just like them better than HTC's, and lets face it, Motorola...well...BLOWS. LG is just starting to become a decent brand. Etc. In terms of hardware and functionality, I love Samsung--but paying for an open-source upgrade is BS. I get why they want it to work this way, but tough crap. Welcome to Android, guys, you've got to provide more support for your work if you're going to play in this field.
     
  12. MyNamesTooLong

    MyNamesTooLong Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    826
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011

    Jan 17, 2011
    826
    51
    78
    Soooo...the moment has a 2.1 update availaible through sprint. Could this be more about tmobile, and less about samsung?
     
  13. euph_22

    euph_22 Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    213
    Posts:
    2,634
    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2010

    Feb 24, 2010
    2,634
    595
    213
    Grad Student (Applied/Computational Math)
    Milwaukee, WI
    No.
     
  14. behold_this

    behold_this Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    143
    Posts:
    1,419
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2009

    Nov 18, 2009
    1,419
    243
    143
    No it can't be! Here's a list:

    Tmobile vibrant-no update to 2.2
    Verizon fascinate-no update to 2.2
    Sprint epic 4g-no update to 2.2
    At&t captivate-no update to 2.2
    International galaxy (original)-no update to 2.x
    Tmobile behold 2-no update to 2.x
    Cincinnati bell behold 2-no update to 2.x

    Do you need more?
     
  15. MyNamesTooLong

    MyNamesTooLong Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    826
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011

    Jan 17, 2011
    826
    51
    78
    No...I could care less either way
     
  16. acseazzu

    acseazzu Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    36
    Posts:
    95
    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2010

    Aug 11, 2010
    95
    6
    36
  17. j0hnh0lmes

    j0hnh0lmes Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    43
    Posts:
    320
    Joined:
    May 27, 2010

    May 27, 2010
    320
    36
    43
    They've given up on the Behold. No matter what you do I doubt they'll release an update. Hell, even the 1.6 update that they did was pulled.
     
  18. asadullah

    asadullah Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    88
    Posts:
    448
    Joined:
    Aug 24, 2010

    Aug 24, 2010
    448
    253
    88
    Ironworker
    casselberry
    truth is some people don't learn or care they just want pretty phones like their friends have. I've shown some of the people I know articles and forums when they are about to buy a samsung phones but it doesn't matter. The average user doesn't know or research about a phone before they buy a phone. They just see the flashy commercials and like a child get mesmerized and must have it no matter what. It's sad but it's the truth. Behold 2 owners should definitely try to get in on the lawsuit or create their own or accept they have shitty phones. Also don't buy samsung phones there hasn't been one decent one (does that really need to be said :D ) since ....... maybe the samsung beat for it's time.
     
  19. marcelo_lopez

    marcelo_lopez Well-Known Member
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    18
    Posts:
    92
    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010

    Apr 23, 2010
    92
    12
    18
    I contacted MicBeast, and passed along some information about what we went through ( along with the now-you-see-it-now-you-don't video where they said it would update wirelessly to Android 2.x ).

    We'll see what happens.
     
  20. MyNamesTooLong

    MyNamesTooLong Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    78
    Posts:
    826
    Joined:
    Jan 17, 2011

    Jan 17, 2011
    826
    51
    78
    ^^^probably the same thing thats been happening...
     
  21. matargueros

    matargueros Lurker
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    5
    Posts:
    1
    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2011

    Sep 11, 2011
    1
    0
    5
    I feel like all of the advertising that the behold II got was overrated. ever since i got this phone and all of its deficiencies i have had nothing but a resentment towards samsung usa and tmobile. as soon as my contract is up im leaving tmobile and their horrible under powered "android" phones in the past. i cant even get tech support from tmobile or samscam to help me figure out why this phone cant even set up a vpn. that and all of the stupid touchwiz limitations make this phone even more sad than the original behold i upgraded from. since it looks like i really did get what i paid for i think i will flush this piece of shit down the drain. i wish there was a way to completely wipe all of tmobiles stuff off this phone and make it a true android phone. but since technology is moving so fast it would pointless to try because the onboard processor would most likely melt from the strain of having a pure android os in it. even samsung knows this phone sucked ass before they let it go into the box but needed the money to fund its "iphone killer" the galaxy. and from what i have seen on that in the android forum i am amused that samscam would make that assumption. i feel all of your guys' pain for being stuck with this substandard phone and hope your next android is a real droid and not a bastardized fail like the behold series is.
     
  22. Drhyde

    Drhyde Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    73
    Posts:
    493
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009

    Dec 23, 2009
    493
    89
    73
    Kitchen prep...in hell...
    Kokomo, Indiana
    Well, don't feel too bad. My first Android phone was the Behold II and I hated it so much that I almost gave up on Android entirely. It wasn't until I seen and purchased the Nexus One that I got into Android heavily. To be honest, I'm moving away from purchasing phones on upgrades anyway. Unless they can be easily rooted, carrier phones carry too much bloat and other nasty things (Carrier IQ anyone?).

    The Behold II is actually really nice hardware for its time. Yes, the CPU is a piddly 528 MHz processor that appeared in every smart phone of the late 90's and early 2000's, but the problem was never that. It COULD have ran stock Android, it COULD have ran CM 6/7, it COULD have had a great post-shelf life, but the problem was Samsung. See Android was just starting then and didn't have any sort of track record. Rooting was still fairly new and Samsung didn't release the source code for the Behold II till a year after it was on the market. Nowadays, they have the source code out before the phone even hits. Had they have released the source code early on, we could have been using the Behold II long past that initial month before throwing it against the wall.
     
  23. euph_22

    euph_22 Android Expert
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    213
    Posts:
    2,634
    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2010

    Feb 24, 2010
    2,634
    595
    213
    Grad Student (Applied/Computational Math)
    Milwaukee, WI
    528MHZ would have been a fast DESKTOP processor in 2002.

    They put up the source code is a timely manner, however they never posted the COMPLETE source code. They main problem there is they used some fairly proprietary bits in the firmware for the phone that they use in other products, and there was no way they'd release that. Meaning the source code is basically worthless to develop from. (FYI: releasing the source code is REQUIRED under the Apache license that Android uses. I believe it also gives a time limit for that release, although proprietary code is exempt).
    Rooting/jailbreaking/whatever it was called on WM has been around for as long as mobile devices have had standard OS's. And none of this has to do with Samsung providing updates to it's products. Samsung still doesn't have a track record for providing updates.
     
  24. Drhyde

    Drhyde Android Enthusiast
    Rank:
    None
    Points:
    73
    Posts:
    493
    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2009

    Dec 23, 2009
    493
    89
    73
    Kitchen prep...in hell...
    Kokomo, Indiana
    Well, I had a 1 Ghz in 2001 in my PC so I'm probably a little off on the processor and my Compaq iPaq had a 400 Mhz. Brain fart I suppose.

    A quick google search gave me Jan 6, 2011 for the release of the partial source code over a year after the Nov, 8 2009 release date. If indeed there was proprietary code that couldn't be worked on and a update was never coming as promised then Samsung gets what they deserve.
     

Share This Page

Loading...