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  1. awesomecomb

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    Yes, now all we need is Cyanogen to announce support for it with CM6 - they have a Galaxy S experimental out!

    Samsung Galaxy S Experimental Mod - CyanogenMod Forum

    I am sure people will be building ROM's from the existing leaked Galaxy S Froyo ROM that is out there, but it may be a while till Wimax and the FFC are supported. HDMI and 4G are the next two things slated for CM6.1 for the EVO.
     
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    Im gonna wait for a video before I root the Epic.

    im a visual learner :)
     
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    im gonna wait till i can afford $500 to shell out for an Epic before i root my Epic :)
     
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    Im new to the android OS, what is root? what does it let you do differently?
     
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    I'm waiting til it's very easy and unrooting is as easy as jailbreaking on the iphone. I'm too chicken to try it atm.
     
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    Looking at the procedure, what I see lacking is an engineering bootloader (and/or S-OFF) and custom recovery image. So while the phone is rooted, it isn't necessarily jailbroken/unlocked completely. Looks like they're working on this...

    Well, I'm encouraged at the simplicity of this root. Looks like the Epic is going to be as root-friendly as the Evo, which is a really good thing.
     
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    This sounds awesome but i had a couple questions.. once i root can i unroot or does permanent root mean no? and whats the difference between permanent and one click root?Thanks guys
     
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    They have nothing to do with each other. Permanent root means you don't lose root access after a reboot. One-click means someone has written a front-end program that allows a user to click a button, and behind the scenes, the phone is rooted for the user.

    Yes, rooted phones can always be unrooted.
     
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    Rooted my Epic today using joeykrim one click root.

    Installed 2.0.5-pre8 *** EXPERIMENTAL ***. So far no issues but only getting this bandwidth with hard 4G signal.

    Download Speed: 2897 kbps (362.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
    Upload Speed: 841 kbps (105.1 KB/sec transfer rate)
     
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    Cool thank you very much for that info
    Still not sure what root is better than others i know theres a few out there plus i have a mac so i might not be able to root yet.
     
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    Curious, why link to xda who links to sdx where it originated why not link to sdx?
     
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    because most people check xda for development updates. and who cares who links to what as long as you have access to the info?
     
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    Is there a VERY BASIC page somewhere that explains the basic software system? How do you plug into it. (I'm used to a palm treo which had desktop software). I see all these commands for rooting/unrooting. Is there a software synch type program or file manager? Of do you do it in DOS? Please let me know if there is a basic primer somewhere.thanks!
     
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    Because XDA is where the real devs are.
     
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    Garbage Man...as far as you know
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    Really? A chance at all the sites and devs working together and you want to pull a my team vs. your team? Fine but this is the only time: Where did first root come from? SDX Where did WORKING recovery come from? SDX Where did the first themed ROM come from? SDX

    That's the last time I'm waggling my e-peen at you or anyone else. Let's just be happy we're all coming together to work towards a common goal without all the drama.

    k?
     
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    Thatts all good but who visits SDX anyways.
     
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    The important thing is that WE have root, WE have working recovery and WE have ROMs.


    Please, let's NOT turn this into a pissing match.
     
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    I am confused, you say still not sure what root is better than others i know theres a few out there - I thought that root was root? as in when I log in to root on my linux computer its the same thing but a different user account as it would be

    is root on android a modified rom or whatever that overwrites the normal android files because there is nothing in these phones for allowing root by default? - as in did it get removed or blocked with a password thats random or something as one would block an admin account or root account

    usually you never run as root, I am a unix geek that moved to linux (sorta) and one of the #1 things you never ever did was run as root - you would log in as root and do stuff but never ever would you ever stay as root for anything other then doing what you had to do at the time, so why is there a way to make this permanent or is that just to allow you to log in as root again and again but actually isnt running as root?
     
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    Easiest 1 click root:
    Permanent root and one click root for the Samsung Epic 4g - PPCGeeks
    Instructions for one click root:

    Download: :http://firon.net/xda/one.click.root.exploitv2.3.0.zip



    1. you need samsung galaxy s drivers
    64-bit OS http://firon.net/xda/usb_drivers_GalaxyS_x64.zip
    32-bit OS Samsung_Mobile_Driver_V1.3.800_For_SPH-d700_Epic_4G.zip

    2. push MENU, select Applications > Development, then enable USB debugging.

    3. extract and run run.bat
    *Linux users chmod +x run.sh and run it, mac users chmod +x run_mac.sh and run it.*

    4. enjoy!

    v2.2.4 added busybox and the remount script and fixes sprint animation not showing
    v2.2.5 superuser.apk & su added!\
    v2.2.6 installs busybox to xbin
    v2.2.7 uses simpler method for rooting
    v2.2.8 fix boot logo, add one-click root for mac and linux (including adb binaries)
    v2.2.9 working Linux and mac one click, unified into a single script (run.sh). Updated busybox to 1.17.3 (thanks skeeterslint).
    v2.3.0 proper sudo on Linux, as well as an improved batch script that will actually check if the phone came back after running the exploit, instead of just waiting a fixed 15 seconds.

    Uninstaller: http://firon.net/xda/one.click.stock...aller-di18.zip
     
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    Did you even try the one click root?
    Is three steps really that hard? Can it get any easier?
     
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    Does rooting a phone clear off all the apps and contacts and such? Sorry, but I am very new to this, and only really want to do it so I can remove all the apps I don't want.

    TIA
     
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    No, rooting will not delete anything.
    Getting root or rooting your phone is the process of modifying the operating system on your device to grant you complete control over it. This means you can overcome limitations that the carriers and manufacturers put on your phone, extend system functionality, and even upgrade it to a custom flavor of Android.
    The name root comes from the Linux operating system world, where the most privileged user on the system (otherwise known as Administrator on Windows) is called root.
    You have access to alter any system files, use themes, change boot images, delete annoying stock apps, such as Sprint
     
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    I've been trying to make this work for 2 days now.

    When I go to install the drivers, I keep having problems.

    CDC Abstract Control Model (ACM) just hangs at Installing driver software, as does S3C6410 Android ADB.

    I have USB Debugging enabled, I plug the phone into my laptop (Windows 7 - 64-bit), and the driver will try and install. I have tried to install the drivers from the suggested download, yet I can't get anywhere. The icon tells me that my device is ready to use, yet the window still tells me "Installing driver software..."

    I do have PDANet installed from my previous phone (Hero). Would this be causing this issue?

    When I try and run the batch file, naturally, I get a message telling me that the device cannot be found.

    Any suggestions?

    I suppose I will try to not have USB debugging enabled and try uninstalling the drivers then try installing them again with the phone connected.
     

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