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froyo vs ios4 browsing comparison by Engadget.

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  1. 2009m6

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    Android 2.2 (Froyo) versus iOS 4: the browser showdown (video) -- Engadget

    lol, discuss the review.:rolleyes:

    "Actually this is a clear win for android. Comparing Nexus vs Iphone 4 is an unfair comparison for the nexus since the A4 chip is a lot faster than the Snapdragon. Do the same test with the Samsung galaxy S (which has the exact same CPU than the iphone 4, it just re-branded) and now the comparison will be fair! And even with unfair comparison the nexus one still gets the edge. Android is catching up very very fast on apple!

    Oh and BTW, arstechnica vas talking about JS performance not HTML and this is clearly and HTML rendering performance test.."
     

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  2. Vihzel

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    Already read it. That article has so many problems with it. Just look in the comments section. It's so screamingly Apple-love.
     
  3. Flying_Hellfish

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    I don't have to read it and I know who won. lol
     
  4. 2009m6

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    lol. engadget has a pro apple agenda.

    look at their reviews....
     
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    Uh, sounds like they said that Android won. The last sentence:

    They say it's not a huge difference, but Froyo was a bit faster than IOS4 on every webpage test (when not using flash) but one that produced a tie. It's funny that you guys try to perceive even the mildest slight as a huge bias when in the end the article named Android the winner. Not saying the tests were necessarily ideal, but that's the conclusion they came to.
     
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    Not saying it's a good comparison, but why wouldn't they compare it with the N1 that has the only official 2.2? You want them to compare it to a Galaxy S on 2.1 without the new compiler? The A4 is not a re branded hummingbird, Apple purchased an ARM licensed and heavily modified the core. FYI the Snapdragon, OMAP, A4, and Hummingbird are all based of the same ARM core heavily modified.
     
  7. EKG

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    Wait til the Droid X has FroYo....iPhone won't be able to keep up at all!
     
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    they are pro apple but they are saying with froyo its a win for android and thats with the nexus one. wait until the x gets froyo it wont even be close
     
  9. jroc

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    Android for the win.......
     
  10. 2009m6

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    the tests were tailored to favor the itouch4, the n1 still won. it really deserves no explanation
     
  11. IOWA

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    Not to mention I'm wondering if they were even on the same WiFi network. Anyone notice the N1 Wifi Reception was significantly less than on the iP4?
     
  12. TheBrit

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    Yeah but we all know that the iPhone exaggerates signal strength :D
     
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  13. droidSPARX

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    the second vid showed Nexus blowing out iPhone on all cylinders. the stammering bastard still called it a slight advantage.
     
  14. jroc

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    ^Yea, with the BBC page in the 2nd clip I thought the N1 won that too. He stammered out "tie".
     
  15. ari-free

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    No no the iPhone's not slow, its resting! Remarkable phone, the Apple, isn't it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
     
  16. a couple of commenters there also pointed out that the iphone apparently only renders what you see at first and more when you scroll, while android renders everything, so the nexus is presumably doing a lot more work
     
  17. IOWA

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    Going to have to agree with that.
     
  18. srmccoy

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    From what I can tell, the difference between both phones is really negligible. Yes, Android is faster loading the pages, but not enough to where you'd feel cheated by on the iPhone. Both browsers are decently quick.
     
  19. jroc

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    ^factor in:

    The chip in the iPhone 4 is faster and better than the one in the N1.

    For ppl complaining about the benchmarks of Quadrant, this is where it can come into play. :) Look at any Quadrant screenshot. Notice where the N1 on 2.1 is. Notice where the Galaxy S is. The chip in that phone is a very close cousin to the one in the iPhone 4.

    The first clip was with Flash content loading on the N1 vs. no Flash content on the iPhone 4.

    Froyo increased performance that much where u woulda thought they both had the same or similar chips.

    Look at browser tests of the X vs the iPhone 4, when the reviewer did an unbiased test...lol. The X is running 2.1

    For reference, its probably still listed on Quadrant as Shadow, but some folks did a recent Quadrant test with the X too.


    Imagine the X or the new Samsung phones running 2.2......
     
  20. mrmojoz

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    But they shouldn't be. The iPhone 4 should beat out an older phone (running flash) easily and it doesn't. This is a rather large victory for Android.
     
  21. srmccoy

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    A victory in a pointless comparison?

    The hardware differences between the iPhone and N1 are minimal at this point. It's not as if the N1 is 2 year old hardware here. There are 6 months separating the devices. I would argue both devices are in the same league at this point in time.

    Let's be honest here, this is a speed test between two browser applications. It doesn't prove anything other than they are comparable in speed and the N1 on Froyo loads pages slightly faster. It doesn't mean the N1 is a better phone or Android is a better OS in any way. In fact, I'm not really sure it means anything meaningful at all.
     
  22. IOWA

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    Guess you don't follow mobile tech alot then... 6 Months is two or more lifetimes regarding age of technology these days... that being said, the processor in the N1 is quite old vs the new A4 chip. It's like comparing a computer that just came out and is considered "new" with an intel Celeron vs a new Intel i7.... hardly a fair comparison.
     
  23. srmccoy

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    Your analogies are a bit off and overly dramatic. The Nexus One is still a current generation device. Granted it was at the beginning of this generational curve. The "new" Apple A4 chipset actually uses the the same Cortex A8 CPU foundation found in the Droid, iPhone 3GS and Palm Pre. As far as technology goes, both CPU's (Cortex A8 and Snapdragon QS8250) date back quite a bit. Also, it looks like Apple may have underclocked the A4 chipset down to 800mhz, but that is still speculative. The newer Android models like the Incredible still use roughly the same chipset as the N1, with minor revisions. So yes, it is a fair comparison.

    My point still stands. This is a comparison of browser software, and at the end of the day the results were negligible. I still fail to see any reason to use this information to show how Android is superior iOS in any significant way.
     
  24. IOWA

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    Really?

    The Snapdragon processor is almost 2 years old.

    The A4 and Hummingbird are relatively new, based on the same architecture but still modified enough to be completely different, meaning faster, and more efficient. My analogy stands. I didn't know nearly 3x the GPU was a "minor revision"

    Just because you use older processors in new devices doesn't put it in the same generation as the newest available.
     
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  25. srmccoy

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    The GPU on the iPhone 4 is identical to the iPhone 3GS. The Nexus One isn't as powerful in that regard. But neither GPU is hardly utilized on the browser test that we're discussing. Both are sufficient for the task.

    Also, the first application of the Cortex A8 (which is the core of the A4) was back in 2007, by Nokia. All Apple did was combine it with PowerVR SGX technology and create one unified chip. That is the A4.

    If Apple had used the latest technology for their chipset, they would have used the Cortex A9 architecture.

    AnandTech has a very good comparision of the two chipsets and how they render web pages. On Network, the iPad A4 performs 10% faster on average, 37% faster when the network isn't a factor. Couple this with the fact that many are starting to believe that the iPhone 4 A4 chipset is under-clocked to 800mhz for battery life and it's reasonable to get a slight advantage on the N1.

    Hardware arguments aside. My main point was that the speed difference observed between the two devices in this test is very small. In day-to-day use these results could go either way. The results of this test prove nothing as far as Android vs. iOS or Nexus One vs. iPhone 4.
     

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