Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by BabyBlues, Dec 6, 2011.
Not overly surprising though.
Yeah, it's a shame. After the Verizon/Gnex debacle that we all know to well combined with how Verizon's been dealing with the LTE Nexus 7, it's not too surprising.
Check engine lights and codes aren't necessarily related. Depends on the programming.
Codes are programmed for the four following conditions when the condition is set.
1. MIL on first error
2. MIL on second error
3. No MIL light
4. No Error reported (code not logged)
Additionally, the SES enable must be tagged to it, otherwise no check engine light.
MIL = Malfunction Indicator Lamp
SES = Service Engine Soon
So a code can still be thrown, in cases 2-4, without the check engine light coming on. In case 2, a second error would cause it to illuminate, but that's cleared on an ignition cycle.
If it's tagged a 3, then the code is stored but no check engine light.
But for something that's causing a reduced power mode, the check engine light would most likely be set.
So when it messes up, does it stay at a fixed 1000RPM, basically idling, or when pressing the gas do the RPMs vary.
Some old MS humor. Appropriate since Ford's sync software is developed by MS.
At a computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated: "If GM had kept up with the technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."
In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release (by Mr. Welch himself) stating:
If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics:
1. For no reason at all, your car would crash twice a day.
2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road, you would have to buy a new car.
3. Occasionally, executing a manoeuver such as a left-turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, and you would have to reinstall the engine.
4. When your car died on the freeway for no reason, you would just accept this, restart and drive on.
5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 'Car95' or 'CarNT', and then added more seats.
6. Apple would make a car powered by the sun, reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but would run on only five per cent of the roads.
7. Oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would be replaced by a single 'general car default' warning light.
8. New seats would force every-one to have the same size butt.
9. The airbag would say 'Are you sure?' before going off.
10. Occasionally, for no reason, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grabbed the radio antenna.
11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe set of road maps from Rand-McNally (a subsidiary of GM), even though they neither need them nor want them. Trying to delete this option would immediately cause the car's performance to diminish by 50 per cent or more. Moreover, GM would become a target for investigation by the Justice Department.
12. Every time GM introduced a new model, car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.
13. You would press the 'start' button to shut off the engine.
Join us on over in the speculation thread Steven! :thumbup:
Err...yeah. :thumbdown: The FCC filing kind of killed that off
I had the no codes issue with my Sebring back in the day. Drove me up the wall because any time the check light comes on, it's supposed to set a code. Had it checked out at a dealer, an independent, and my dad's snap-on computer and all came up empty. Mine was entirely different circumstances so this isn't what's wrong with your Escape, but mine turned out to be oxygen sensors. You'd think that would set a code...
O2 sensors would generally set a code, but you have to understand how a code gets set. There's a range for a sensor to work. If the sensor is providing bad data, but it's still within that range, the computer doesn't know it's bad. Only if it falls outside the parameters set does it indicate a fault.
But in your case, once a code is set, the check engine light comes on. If the light is still on, then there has to be a code driving it. If not, something else like the computer itself is messed up (not impossible). But if the light goes out and the code immediately clears, then it's something programmed that way. Usually, the code stays and there is a flag that sets it "C" for current and "H" for History. Historical codes stay for a while, but don't trip the CEL anymore.
I didn't know that some codes are stored. Maybe I'll find out when my reader get here?
It is just under 1000rpm. I would say 900, but regardless it just stays there. Pressing on the gas pedal does nothing
But in all honesty, I didn't waste a minute hoping for the N5.
I think I understand. I took a class on OBD2 many moons ago and my dad was a mechanic for 40+ years. That was the problem, based on behavior, my dad thought it was an O2 sensor, but it stayed within proper voltage ranges and cycled like it was supposed to. But every time you started the car, it would barely idle, run like crap until it warmed up, then it would run great, and that's when the light would come on. And it would stay on until you turned the car off, but no code. Never buy Chrysler products kids! :-D
Funny thing is before they were bought by Daimler, Chrysler was the auto manufacturer most feared by Toyota for the direction they were headed.
Looks like Beetlejuice is coming back.
I still want a Jeep Rubicon. (2 door, not a fake 4 door Jeep)
I've seen that one too!
I want to see the remake of Carrie. That movie is why my name is with a K not a C.
Watching that right now.
My 95 Sebring was a product of that push. Great styling, HORRIBLE quality, though. The trucks haven't ever seemed to suffer the same quality issues.
Jeeps are great for going off road. But not very practical as a daily driver. But they do look nice!
When I was in high school I bought a used car for $1300 that had NO sensors, NO on-board computer, actually NO electronics at all, and it never stalled out...
Mine was chocolate brown. Otherwise, all original parts, except the upholstery was redone to match original. Good mileage too!
Did you do random chores for an old asian man that went by the name Mr. Miyagi?
Wax On Wax Off. How could I forget?
Am I the only person here who might puke if he sees one more rabidly enthusiastic article on BBM for Android and iOS? I wanna step outside and scream
"I couldn't care less about BBM!"
+1 THAT ship sailed and sunk long ago (sorry Chief for the naval metaphor). I had BB's before my X and missed some of the features from the email software. But I can certainly live without them. And the rest of the world seems to have reached that conclusion as well. Too little too late RIM. Bye Bye BB
All the hype just for people to be met with a message saying they have to enter their e-mail address and wait in line to get an access code to even use it. Talk about a buzz killer for those who do actually want to use it :banghead:
I completely agree. There's no room for more messengers out there. We have a great selection already, they are just a lot late
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Good morning. Happy Tuesdays.