Giving up on the Transform (for a while)

[NPA123]

I am going to return the Transform and try out the Optimus. I thought the 2.2 upgrade would make the phone faster but I was mistaken. After a day of usage and installing apps, I cannot multitask, cannot play 3D, etc. I know the Optimus has its own drawbacks but the benefits far outweigh those.
I tried the Optimus and it seemed like an EVO compared to the Transform. The transform on paper has better specs then why is it this way? No driver optimization for graphics?
I will try the Optimus and put it through some real heavy use and see if I would then go back to the Transform.

 

[BabelFish]

keep us posted on what you think

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Yes, keep us informed, I'm going to be interested on how good the Optimus S will work for you. I have one and trust me, it's nothing to rave about, it just ran 2D games better than the Transform honestly... I'm totally satisfied with my Transform

 

[NPA123]

I have had this phone for a little more than 3 hours and all I can say is this is one impressive small phone. This does not have a sensor, front camera or flash, no notification LEDs and no front camera or sliding keyboard on top of a 3.2" screen.
But, this phone makes up in speed where it lacks in everything else. My wife still is holding on to the Transform because she needs a physical KB so I am comparing it side by side with both phones running 2.2. On speed alone, there is no contest.
The Optimus runs as though it has a dedicated graphics card. Somehow, the software and hardware run harmoniously on the Optimus unlike the Transform. I think the Optimus benefits from 512MBs of RAM which helps a lot. Games that refuse to run on the Transform run effortlessly on the Optimus. It almost kept up (almost) with my brother's EVO. I have 8 more days to try it out before my 30 day period runs out. So far, I am extremely happy with the switch.

 

[[TheAndroid]]

I have had this phone for a little more than 3 hours and all I can say is this is one impressive small phone. This does not have a sensor, front camera or flash, no notification LEDs and no front camera or sliding keyboard on top of a 3.2" screen.
But, this phone makes up in speed where it lacks in everything else. My wife still is holding on to the Transform because she needs a physical KB so I am comparing it side by side with both phones running 2.2. On speed alone, there is no contest.
The Optimus runs as though it has a dedicated graphics card. Somehow, the software and hardware run harmoniously on the Optimus unlike the Transform. I think the Optimus benefits from 512MBs of RAM which helps a lot. Games that refuse to run on the Transform run effortlessly on the Optimus. It almost kept up (almost) with my brother's EVO. I have 8 more days to try it out before my 30 day period runs out. So far, I am extremely happy with the switch.

Whatever works best for you bro! I just hope when 2.2 is officially released, they make the phone harmonize more with hardware and software because like you said, thats where the Transform lacks, and you can clearly feel it aswell. That being said, I'm not sure the Transform has the best drivers for gaming, but that also opens the opportunity for people to add better 3D drivers and such to make the phone more smooth.

 

[BabelFish]

I have had this phone for a little more than 3 hours and all I can say is this is one impressive small phone. This does not have a sensor, front camera or flash, no notification LEDs and no front camera or sliding keyboard on top of a 3.2" screen.
But, this phone makes up in speed where it lacks in everything else. My wife still is holding on to the Transform because she needs a physical KB so I am comparing it side by side with both phones running 2.2. On speed alone, there is no contest.
The Optimus runs as though it has a dedicated graphics card. Somehow, the software and hardware run harmoniously on the Optimus unlike the Transform. I think the Optimus benefits from 512MBs of RAM which helps a lot. Games that refuse to run on the Transform run effortlessly on the Optimus. It almost kept up (almost) with my brother's EVO. I have 8 more days to try it out before my 30 day period runs out. So far, I am extremely happy with the switch.

when you switched your phones, did sprint charge you the new $10 fee?

 

[NPA123]

when you switched your phones, did sprint charge you the new $10 fee?

I signed with Sprint on the 18th of Jan 2011. I am still within the 30 day "honeymoon" period. I was told by the Sprint rep that within this period, i can change devices and see which one I like the best. I logged into my account and have not seen the charges yet but I will keep you guys posted.

 

[NPA123]

Just chatted with a rep. No charges levied. Maybe things change once you start serving the 2 year term. LOL

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Just chatted with a rep. No charges levied. Maybe things change once you start serving the 2 year term. LOL

Wouldn't it just be nice to swap phones as you please? Haha now that would put Sprint in the map. Not on, but in haha

 

[NPA123]

Wouldn't it just be nice to swap phones as you please? Haha now that would put Sprint in the map. Not on, but in haha

Haha. Nice one bro!

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Haha. Nice one bro!

Anyway getting back on topic haha, how is the LG Optimus S still going?

 

[NPA123]

Anyway getting back on topic haha, how is the LG Optimus S still going?

Going great. I rooted it today and installed thunderom and all I can say is WOW. More space, even faster, everything works as it should. Still have my wife's Transform to play with though.

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Going great. I rooted it today and installed thunderom and all I can say is WOW. More space, even faster, everything works as it should. Still have my wife's Transform to play with though.

I heard it's performance with that even exceeds some Galaxy S phones! Good work bro haha

 

[Sephoroth]

I tried the Optimus and it seemed like an EVO compared to the Transform.

Part of the reason for this is because it has the same GPU as an Evo (i.e. an Adreno 200).

The transform on paper has better specs then why is it this way? No driver optimization for graphics?

AFAIK the Transform doesn't have better internal specifications on paper. Sure it has a keyboard, front facing camera, LED flash, and larger screen, but it lacks a dedicated GPU (versus the Optimus S's Adreno 200) and has only 256MB of RAM (compared to the 512 MB on the Optimus S). The CPUs on the Optimus and Transform are of similar lineage so the higher clock speed may give the Transform a slight advantage in this area out of the box but it in no way makes up for losses in the GPU and RAM departments.

In addition to this, for whatever reason Samsung uses RFS-formatted file systems for internal flash memory (AFAIK on all of their product lines including Galaxy S phones) resulting in quite noticeable speed loss during I/O intensive operations and boot up. This said, I'm not sure what file system is present on the Optimus though I doubt it would be any worse.

As someone who went from a Moment (which has the same internals as the Transform minus the FFC while exchanging the larger SLCD screen for slightly smaller AMOLED screen), I couldn't be happier and am surprised Sprint has placed the Transform as a higher-end device relative to the Optimus.

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Part of the reason for this is because it has the same GPU as an Evo (i.e. an Adreno 200).



AFAIK the Transform doesn't have better internal specifications on paper. Sure it has a keyboard, front facing camera, LED flash, and larger screen, but it lacks a dedicated GPU (versus the Optimus S's Adreno 200) and has only 256MB of RAM (compared to the 512 MB on the Optimus S). The CPUs on the Optimus and Transform are of similar lineage so the higher clock speed may give the Transform a slight advantage in this area out of the box but it in no way makes up for losses in the GPU and RAM departments.

In addition to this, for whatever reason Samsung uses RFS-formatted file systems for internal flash memory (AFAIK on all of their product lines including Galaxy S phones) resulting in quite noticeable speed loss during I/O intensive operations and boot up. This said, I'm not sure what file system is present on the Optimus though I doubt it would be any worse.

As someone who went from a Moment (which has the same internals as the Transform minus the FFC while exchanging the larger SLCD screen for slightly smaller AMOLED screen), I couldn't be happier and am surprised Sprint has placed the Transform as a higher-end device relative to the Optimus.

Because people only care about screen size, flash, front facing camera, and a faster phone, which is the Transform's trick, the 800mhz processor. I still adore my phone though.

 

[NPA123]

I personally was sold on the idea of a front cam, sensor, flash on rear camera, 800 Mhz processor, etc. Slide out KB was not a must for me at all. I agree that I thought based on my knowledge of the Transform vs. the Optimus, the Transform did seem like a better phone "on paper". Because of the size of the Optimus, I did not even bother checking the specs deeper.
Was I wrong?!
Now that I know about the GPU, dual core processor (600Mhz/400Mhz), etc. this phone seems like the best bargain ever and it's free.

 

[[TheAndroid]]

I personally was sold on the idea of a front cam, sensor, flash on rear camera, 800 Mhz processor, etc. Slide out KB was not a must for me at all. I agree that I thought based on my knowledge of the Transform vs. the Optimus, the Transform did seem like a better phone "on paper". Because of the size of the Optimus, I did not even bother checking the specs deeper.
Was I wrong?!
Now that I know about the GPU, dual core processor (600Mhz/400Mhz), etc. this phone seems like the best bargain ever and it's free.

I just really wanted my keyboard and what sounded faster. Believe me I didn't give the Optimus S the light of day.

 

[NPA123]

I just really wanted my keyboard and what sounded faster. Believe me I didn't give the Optimus S the light of day.

I hear you bro. For power typing users, nothing beats a physical KB.

 

[Sephoroth]

I personally was sold on the idea of a front cam, sensor, flash on rear camera, 800 Mhz processor, etc. Slide out KB was not a must for me at all. I agree that I thought based on my knowledge of the Transform vs. the Optimus, the Transform did seem like a better phone "on paper". Because of the size of the Optimus, I did not even bother checking the specs deeper.
Was I wrong?!
Now that I know about the GPU, dual core processor (600Mhz/400Mhz), etc. this phone seems like the best bargain ever and it's free.

Calling it a "dual core" CPU is somewhat misleading though I suppose it may technically be correct as the 400MHz core is dedicated towards modem functions though I'm not sure how much of a performance boost it provides to the phone overall.

In a sense the old Moment which the Transform replaced was better than the Transform as though it lacked a front facing camera, it instead had an AMOLED screen. Though the Transform's screen is larger, it remains at 480x320 resulting in a relatively low pixel density. This is part of the reason I found it funny when Sprint released the Transform at a price higher than the Moment which debuted about a year before it with the same internals.

Now if only they had truly fixed the data lock issues on the Moment....

I just really wanted my keyboard and what sounded faster. Believe me I didn't give the Optimus S the light of day.

I have a relative who is dissatisfied with her Moment who would like the Optimus but unfortunately can't go without LED flash and wants a physical keyboard so you're definitely not alone.

 

[Kmfiremedic111]

I am going to return the Transform and try out the Optimus. I thought the 2.2 upgrade would make the phone faster but I was mistaken. After a day of usage and installing apps, I cannot multitask, cannot play 3D, etc. I know the Optimus has its own drawbacks but the benefits far outweigh those.
I tried the Optimus and it seemed like an EVO compared to the Transform. The transform on paper has better specs then why is it this way? No driver optimization for graphics?
I will try the Optimus and put it through some real heavy use and see if I would then go back to the Transform.

Get the optimus S. You wont regret it. I had a transform and hated it. Got the Optimus S and it is like night and day. Best phone I ever had.

 

[[TheAndroid]]

Get the optimus S. You wont regret it. I had a transform and hated it. Got the Optimus S and it is like night and day. Best phone I ever had.

My sister has an Optimus S though, and believe me. I have fun just moding it and screwing around with it! Root, custom recovery, working on ext4, and ThundeROM. The phone runs like a dream. It's going to be nice when the Transform has it's own real build of Froyo so I can add my own drivers to it and speed it up majorly.