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Gizmodo asks the Question of the Day: iPhone 4 or HTC EVO

People like the iPhone like it because their are smooth apps, that always work. They have a full version of nazi zombies and plenty of other games and apps for the device. Yes, for people who are so happy and giddy about customizing their phone android is taking over, but for the average consumer, the iPhone is still going to be the most popular phone.
Of course the iPhone is going to be the most popular device. Put out a device that any dumb person can work without using any brain power, then couple that up with more hype and commercials then anything else on the planet, and Steve Jobs telling people this is the best device out there, what do you think the average dumb consumer is going to buy......

Now, for us educated folks, which is obviously the minority, luckily we have other choices that give us some freedom to use our brains and creativity!
 
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If you want mediocrity, take a look in the android app store.

SNIP

Ya, I noticed you can get Google Voice in the android app store, an app Jobs/Apple rejected which resulted in an FCC investigation and Jobs/Apple back peddling saying the app was not rejected they were still studying it.

What ever you want to say about Google Voice it is not mediocre. Same thing for the web browsers you can get in the android app store that run Flash, something lots of web sites run.

Jobs/Apple seem to get into too many feuds with Google and Adobe that clearly put them out of the mainstream web sites.

And the result is things like this

YouTube - The Android Phone is for Porn
 
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I'll take you up on this, because if you are right, I am mistaken. You're saying a jailbroken device is superior. List these things that iPhone does, jb'ed, that make it superior to all other devices.

Not challenging you necessarily; I've always thought otherwise.

I do believe you simplistically describe the jailbreaking process. For one, you are dealing with a manufacturer who works VERY hard to thwart jailbreaking.


Fair enough,
First let me start out by saying the iPhone is going to be easier to jailbreak because their are only 3 current devices available, running the same OS, By the same manufacturer.

Motorola makes the droid, HTC makes the EVO, Samsung makes the moment/galaxy all of these phone makers may have phones running android, but the way to hack into them is different.

Where as with the iPhone their is only one company and one phone.

Another reason why the iPhone is going to superior is because it gives you cydia right on the device.

Excluding people on here and xda developers I would say that only about 5% of android users have a rooted device.

Where as with the iPhone it is probobly 15%,

It is easier to do things on and easier to navigate cydia, then search through topics on xda developers.

Well the iPhone is already running android 2.2, and 1.5 if thats not very impressive I don't know what you want to hear, but I will try convincing you and the person above me who said its funny that people are trying to put android on their device, where as no one is trying to put iPhone OS on their android device:

1. Search the market for iPhone theme, and I guarentee you come up with at least 10 themes

2. Their are plenty of people who are looking for an iPhone theme
iPhone theme android - Google Search

Another thing is the way you can customize the iPhone, you can add the android lock patter, you can change the background on the phone.

You can also have an HTC sense theme:
iPhone Gets HTC Sense Theme | Android Phone Fans

or a palm pre theme:
Palm Pre Theme For iPhone

Or like the video above me posted.

Or this
http://thebigboss.org/why-jailbreak-iphone

The same things you do on android (putting custom roms on the device) is like themes on the iPhone

I meant superior because you can do all of these things from your device without having to mess with things on your computer.

My whole point was that iPhone out of the box is not customizable, because apple did not make it customizable they made it simple.

Its not like they said its a customizable OS, however when you jailbreak it, it can do anything.
 
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If you want mediocrity, take a look in the android app store.

How many iPhone users do you think look at Giz or Engadget? not many, it's not that kind of platform. Android is though - it's for people who like to tinker.

To continue the car theme (although the universe and his dog knows this is a subject lost on most Americans):

The iPhone is like a Porsche. It's aspirational, looks nice, it's expensive and is easy to use. It's not that fast (comparatively), or comfortable, and you can't really play with the suspension settings to make it go faster. If it breaks, you need to use Porsche parts to fix it. The interior is beautiful, and it's design is iconic.

Android is like a kit car/track car. It's for the enthusiast. It's MUCH faster than the Porsche on a track, and you can tweak the hell out of it. It's not so happy in the hands of a normal driver and needs plenty of attention. It's a performer, and you must be willing to put the time in if you want ownership to be a pleasure and not a chore.

Some people like to spend their time tinkering with their track car - and this is why they bought it. Joe Public likes that it's noisy and fast, but wouldn't necessarily want to own one. The Porsche owner is smug. They just want to drive it around and not really push it very hard. It's nice to look at, and ordinary people want one. Your granny could drive it, no problem. The Porsche owner bought the car for the badge - they have never lifted the bonnet.

The Track car owner is happy. They have what they want.
The Porsche owner is happy too. They have what they want also.

THEY ARE DIFFERENT PEOPLE!!!!!

I couldn't have said it any better myself. Cheers!
 
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Yeah, I linked to that article in the reviews section.

Talk about a bunch of dishonest hypocrites. The article was actually almost balanced. After the iPhone 4 orgy they had the day before, maybe they thought this would balance that out....they blew it. Guess that tells you where Engadget is.
 
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I posted this in the lame Motorcycle article at the top...I'm sure it will be cleaned up soon...got 2 lame replies:

"teky Posted Jun 9th 2010 10:20PM NEUTRAL
Motorcycles are nice and all, but what I would really like to know is....

Where did that iPhone 4 vs. EVO 4G comparison article go...you know, the one that compared the 2 phones and had a poll...that one?

It suddenly disappeared without a trace. I linked to it on another blog...and then just *poof!*, it was gone.

You guys do that kind of stuff? Just make articles disappear for your own reasons?

I guess you do.
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Lando Calrissian Posted Jun 9th 2010 10:24PM NEUTRAL
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Well it IS their blog, and if it's actually gone then I'm sure there's a good reason for it.
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Scrubs Posted Jun 9th 2010 10:25PM NEUTRAL
Engadget got smart and brought iut the troll-a-cide and deleted it"
 
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iPhone or EVO: which one should you get?

By Paul Miller posted Jun 9th 2010 4:34PM Feature
Hoo boy. This is a tough one, isn't it? In our years at Engadget, we've rarely seen such deafening debate and adulation for a pair of devices. In one corner we have the iPhone 4, coming off a few relatively easy rounds atop the smartphone mind share heap. However, the Droid and its ilk have weakened Apple's spot, and here comes the HTC EVO 4G in for the kill, sporting a larger screen, 4G data, and all manner of HTC sexy. If the devices themselves weren't enough, the debate has turned into something larger and metaphorical, with Apple representing tight restrictions and a singular top down vision, while Google's Android stands for something perhaps a bit more haphazard but democratizing. Of course, we'll have a much firmer feel for the iPhone 4 once we've done a full review, but we at least know enough about both handsets to outline most of the points of contention, and we'll come back to this debate once the iPhone is out in the wild. The gloves come off after the break.

Of course, the easy answer is that they're both great phones. The truth of the matter is that what might make the EVO the perfect smartphone for one person doesn't necessarily pop up on another person's radar. In many cases (like this author's, for instance), there are many pros and cons on both platforms and devices that makes the decision difficult, almost painful. We're going to try to lay out the facts, so that you have the best material at your disposal for making the decisions, but we're not going to call the decision "easy" or "cut and dry" for anybody. This is a road we all eventually walk alone... into an Apple or Sprint store.

Hardware

We've stacked these two phones up every which way specs-wise. They're very similar phones when you run down a checklist, but there's one glaring dissimilarity: the EVO is huge. In fact, many people might find a more direct iPhone competitor in the excellent Droid Incredible. Outside of its lack of a front facing camera, it's virtually the same phone as the EVO, just smaller. But we didn't come here to talk Droid Incredible. Here are some of the big ways these two phones compete:

Design

This is the quintessential spot for personal preference, so we won't linger long. Suffice it to say that these are two companies lauded for their hardware design at the top of their game. The EVO is mostly plastic, the iPhone is glass and metal, EVO has a kickstand, the iPhone is thinner (9.3mm vs. 12.7mm). They both fit fine in a pocket, and are both striking enough visually that you wouldn't want to hide them in a pocket.

Screen

The EVO 4G's 4.3-inch screen is amazing and jawdropping, while the iPhone's 3.5-inch screen looks unchanged until you get up close: and realize it's just as jawdropping. The EVO scores an obvious win on size, but the iPhone certainly has it on pixel density -- approaching that of a printed page -- and even resolution (960 x 640 vs. 800 x 480), and we found it to be a brighter, higher quality display as well.

That said, we don't think most people will suffer one bit with the pixel density of the EVO, and while the iPhone might edge it out in quality, the EVO icertainly passable for viewing outdoors and wonderful indoors. Coming down to... surprise, surprise, a matter of preference.

Cameras

The EVO has higher resolution cameras front and back (8 megapixel / 1.3 megapixel, vs. 5 megapixel / VGA). Apple claims its low resolution sensor around back is to improve the low light performance, and both manufacturers are using the same "backside illuminated" tech. We'll have to let these duke it out in the wild (we've only seen professionally-produced samples from Apple's camera), but the EVO wins the spec war.

Battery

This is going to be a big one for a lot of people. In our experience, the EVO can easily get through a day of light use when used on 3G, and isn't that much worse on 4G. Meanwhile, the iPhone appears to have an improved battery over the already strong 3GS, which should fairly handily beat the EVO on both standby and active use time. Then again, the EVO has a user-replaceable battery if you want to pack a spare. We're confident that most people can survive with the EVO, but if you want battery "comfort," the iPhone is the best bet.

Storage

We've never really liked the way Android segments storage between device and microSD card, and the EVO doesn't help its case by requiring you to remove the battery to get at the included 8GB card. Meanwhile Apple offers the iPhone in 16GB and 32GB flavors, all nicely synced and managed with iTunes. There's nothing stopping you from putting all the apps and music you want on the EVO, but it's nowhere near as pretty a process as Apple makes it.

OS

Software is much more a "shades of grey" area than hardware, so we're going to have to let a bit more opinion seep in here. Please forgive us. You could spend a lifetime detailing the differences and similarities of these two advanced, complicated smartphone OSes, but we'll try to hit the high points:

Notifications

We're going to call this for Android right away. Google's notification tray is just so much more pleasant, useful, and unobtrusive than Apple's pop-overs -- we just wonder how long it'll take Apple to figure this out.

Messaging

HTC isn't helping itself out here by shipping duplicate SMS and email clients to get in the way of Google's own. Apple's also playing catch up with iOS 4, bringing a unified inbox and threaded messaging to the iPhone. Basically, it comes down to Gmail: if you use it and love it, Android will always be your best experience of it, but for any other service, the iPhone serves just fine. It also makes SMS a prettier experience, though no more usable than its Android counterpart.

Something that's relevant for a minority, but very relevant for that minority, is Google Voice. There's a decent web app that makes it almost usable on the iPhone, but it's a powerful, extremely useful thing as a deeply integrated app on Android.

Keyboard

These are both touchscreen-only phones, which might be a bit of a change if you're coming from a physical keyboard-equipped device, but rest assured that many humans throughout the ages have managed to become quite proficient on touchscreen keyboards, and Apple and HTC's are pretty much the best in the business. The EVO benefits from its extra real estate -- the keyboard is almost too large in portrait -- and we like some of the ways HTC handles prediction, like offering multiple word alternatives as you type, but the iPhone still offers the best touchscreen keyboard we've ever used, and we doubt the iPhone 4 will change that.

Widgets

Android: yes. iPhone: no.

Multitasking

Apple is finally entering the multitasking arena with iOS 4, but it's certainly doing things its own way. In truth, Apple still doesn't allow any sort of "true" multitasking on its phone, just background services, task completion, and fast app switching. Android blows this away by allowing full apps to run simultaneously. Still, for all of Apple's overwrought babying of the user, it does have a bit of a point: if you don't kill your tasks vigilantly on Android, your phone will run hot (we're speaking from experience with the EVO), slow down, and devour battery life. If you're smart and proactive, Android's multitasking can make you more productive and also more attractive to the opposite sex. For everybody else, the iPhone is the cleaner solution.

Polish

This is certainly a matter of taste, but here's a gross simplification: iPhone is for aesthetes, Android is for nerds. HTC's Sense spitshine adds a bit to Android, but it also increases the quantity of divergent, inconsistent UI. Apple's managed to not only present a unified front in its own apps, but also pass on a strong design language to much of its developer community -- something Google is far from doing. Meanwhile, there's something very homespun and fun about diving into Android's technical, geektastic menus and widgets.

Apps

You can't argue against the fact that the iPhone has more applications, way more games, and a generally higher level of app quality thanks to a more mature SDK and increased competition. Still, when it comes to doing stuff that's not gaming, Android Market does alright for itself. It's really down to a per user thing: can you live without app X? Is there an adequate replacement for app Y? Do you hate having fun? Both devices have approval processes to get onto the branded store, but Android's is a bit more lax (emulators, for instance), and you can also grab unsigned apps directly. You have to jailbreak the iPhone for that kind of freedom.

Some notable first and third party applications:

Maps: Android is the easy winner, with full dedicated GPS-style turn by turn navigation. This likely isn't going to change soon, either, because Google builds the maps for both handsets.
Browser: Google claims to be making some improvements with its browser, rating its Froyo version as the "world's fastest mobile browser." Unfortunately, there's no telling when this new version of Android will make it to the EVO -- that's up to HTC and Sprint. Meanwhile, the iPhone browser is generally regarded at the top of the heap for speed and compatibility, with one notable exception: no Flash.
Twitter: Now that there's a first party Twitter app on Android things are looking up (HTC's one was pretty horrid), but you can still find the most variety and quality for Twitter on the iPhone.
Facebook: Just about a wash, though there's more integration with contacts on Android.
Calendar: This is a case of personal preference, though HTC's replacement calendar is an easy loser to the stock Android version and Apple's very pretty iPhone one. Google Calendar integration is slightly easier on Android, but most people can get it running on iPhone just fine.
YouTube: The EVO wins easily with YouTube HQ, a glorious sight on the 4.3-inch screen. We'd think the iPhone would be getting this quality bump sooner or later, but no mention has been made.
Tethering: The EVO wins with WiFi hotspot connection sharing, while you have to use a cable or Bluetooth on the iPhone. You can share a 2GB data plan on AT&T for $20 extra, but that ramps all the way to $75 if you use 5GB. Meanwhile the EVO has "unlimited" sharing for $30 extra a month.
Video chat: We have an more in depth comparison here, but basically: HTC EVO uses Qik and can chat to computers or phones, while Apple uses its own FaceTime tech, which is currently iPhone 4 to iPhone 4 only.

Service

AT&T / Sprint

This one's pretty simple: if you live in a WiMAX area with good coverage, you could see higher data speeds on Sprint than AT&T. The trick is, you probably don't live in a WiMAX area with good coverage -- they're few and far between. Luckily, Sprint's 3G network is actually pretty great, and we've had a wonderful experience using it on the EVO so far, surpassing even some other Sprint handsets we've used. Meanwhile, AT&T is AT&T: great speeds and network if it's not over capacity in your area. The company has made some strong strides at fighting dropped calls in major metropolitan areas like NY and SF, and hopefully that new external antenna design on the iPhone 4 will help out as well.

Costs

The HTC EVO 4G is $199 after a $100 mail-in rebate with Sprint, but you can get it elsewhere (like Radio Shack and Best Buy) for $199 straight up. The iPhone 4 will be $199. Service plans get much more complicated, but basically:

AT&T you can get as low at $55 with 200MB of data, 450 minutes of talk, and no messaging. If you want unlimited voice and messaging, along with 2GB of data (the most AT&T will pre-sell you, it's $10 per GB after that), you'll be forking over $115 a month.
Sprint requires you to go for a minimum $80 plan (that includes the required premium data plan add-on for the EVO), which includes unlimited data, unlimited messaging, and 450 minutes of talk. To bump up to unlimited everything (and that $10 premium data charge insures a true unlimited data) you'll be spending $110 a month.

Wrap-up

You know the facts, you've heard the arguments, you've passively observed the roar of comments from each side... now follow your heart!

Not good enough for you? You can find out more on your own with our iPhone 4 guide and preview, and our complete EVO 4G review.
 
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