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    Well it seems I'm posting from a Lumia 810 tonight. My Kindle was broken and is being fixed. Hopefully it'll be back on Wednesday. Anyway I think W9 will look good and more simpler hopefully.
     

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    Microsoft expected to unveil new Windows name next week

    But Windows is Windows, and if Microsoft can appeal to its loyal desktop PC users then it won't matter what the full version of Windows is called, as long as the company listens carefully to feedback and rights all of its Windows 8 wrongs. Next week will give us an early look at exactly what Microsoft is planning.
     
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    Why am I being told that we may have to pay for windows 9 . this isn't a upgrade. Something that some of us aren't using the full windows 8 and to solve security issues . what is this and is it true . if not someone terminate the fool at tiger direct that told me this .
     
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    A disagreement, but not to consider the source:

    Windows 9 a free upgrade?


    Andreas Diantoro, the president of Microsoft Indonesia, according to Indonesian news site Detik.com, has confirmed that Windows 9 will be a free upgrade for Windows 8 users.

    Windows 9 will be available as a free download, much like Apple’s updates to OS X–and much like Windows 8.1, which was a free update provided to Windows 8 and Windows RT users through the Windows Store.

    It has not been determined if Windows 9 will be available to earlier OS's, such as Vista and Win7.

    An announcement as to when the OS will be released should be upcoming at the companies Sept. 30th media event.
     
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    Microsoft’s Windows 9 event in San Francisco: Updated live blog

    Today’s Windows 9 event in San Francisco is a fairly low-key thing — it won’t be anything like a big Build or WWDC keynote. I expect that the event will basically be a preamble for the Windows 9 Technical Preview, which is due to be released at some point in the next few days.
     
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    So we can have the number nine all to ourselves...

    Windows 10 is the official name for Microsoft's next version of Windows

    ...When you put all that together, the end result looks a lot like Windows 7. That's intentional. Microsoft's Joe Belfiore pointed to the millions of customers still using Windows 7, and said the company wants to make their transition to Windows 10 much more comfortable than the unfamiliar leap to Windows 8 two years ago. "We want all these Windows 7 users to have the sentiment that yesterday they were driving a first-generation Prius, and now with Windows 10 it's like a Tesla."

    Watch Microsoft's Windows 10 event
     
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    Microsoft Unveils New Operating System, Dubbed Windows 10

    Tomorrow
    [today], Microsoft will release a “technical preview” of the OS to a select group of users and testers. The final version of the OS is expected to arrive in the middle of next year, and Microsoft has indicated it will continually release updates to the new OS after it first ships.
     
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    Windows 10: Familiarity breeds contempt

    Windows 10 is a completely unabashed and deeply apologetic love letter to Windows 7 — and to everyone who used and loved Windows 7, too. Windows 10 — at least what we’ve seen so far — is what the people have been asking for since it became clear that Microsoft really was doubling down on the Frankenstinan trainwreck of Windows 8.
     
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    Windows 10 Technical Preview now available to download

    Microsoft only unveiled Windows 10 to the world yesterday, but you can already download a preview version of the new operating system today. The Windows 10 Technical Preview is designed for enthusiasts, developers, and enterprise customers to evaluate the latest changes to Windows. Microsoft has created a special insiders program to deliver regular updates throughout the Windows 10 development cycle, and those who sign up will get the very latest software to test.
     
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    Haven't used Windows since getting an Android tablet, 2+ years now.
     
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    W10 Preview won't install on my ten year old PC; says a device driver is missing but won't say which one. No problem with drivers on W7 or various Linux distos, so I guess it's them. Oh well, didn't really expect it to work anyway.
     
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    I don't think many people will be installing Win 10 on ten year old PCs? What's that "Designed for Windows XP"...but runs Win7 OK? Could be something essential like a video or sound driver that's not supported. Like always I think most, especially non-techy regular users will be upgrading to Win 10 when they buy new PCs.
     
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    ...maybe next time, or next after next, or never.
     
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    Windows 10sion: what's old is new again, and that's a problem

    ...Apps have gotten much more powerful and there's a handy way to search everything, but when you pick up a Windows PC it may not be immediately clear which decade it comes from. It's the best Windows 7 ever, but it's still Windows 7.

    If that's all Microsoft has up its sleeve, that's a problem. If it allows its most resistive customers to slow its pace of innovation, Microsoft will essentially back itself into a corner from which it will have no choice but to watch its competitors race past it toward the next device type or the next interaction method.
     
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    UNRECOMMENDED ! ! !

    It ain't Microsoftian, tries to add other 'helpful' crap, drove Unchecky nuts:

    Windows 10 UX Pack 1.0


    Windows 10 UX Pack will give you Windows 10 UI improvements such as theme and some Windows 10 features without touching system files at all so it won’t have such risk to harm your system at all. In this package, you’ll have Windows 10 inspired themes and applications to make your system resembles Windows 10 as much as possible without modifying system files.
     
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    Windows 10: The biggest problems, gripes, and missing features so far

    So far, in my own explorations of Windows 10, I’m actually enjoying it quite a lot. There are a few annoying bugs, and it doesn’t feel quite as responsive as Windows 8, but I’m sure that’s more a case of drivers needing to be updated and the early status of the Windows 10 code.
     
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    What about those of us who actually like the start screen on our laptops ? Will we be forced to adapt to a legacy desktop and start menu again?
     
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    When 10 does come out it will be the Start Screen(tile world) that becomes legacy. To be remembered in decades to come along with Bob, Clippy and Rover.... LOL

    No doubt there was a few that said... "What about those of us who actually like Microsoft Bob on our laptops?" :p


    I'll just leave this here as a reminder of what legacies we do have...
    [​IMG]
    ...and I actually posted that in the Win 8 thread over two years ago.

    One thing I do remember about trying to use the Start Screen, was that it couldn't even show the local weather forecast, it only had weather for a city over 500km away.
     
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    I don't want the start screen to go. the start menu is very inefficient. I never liked it when Windows 95 came out and dont like it today. Seriously how farther backward are we going? Lets count the ways. Flat design? Check. Start menu from windows 95? Check. Next up? DOS Shell?

    Seriously why on earth would anyone go from tapping a simple icon to start, programs, all programs, games, portal, portal 2?

    What's more so is why no one ever complains about touch- centric UI when it comes to Android or iOS or even Windows Phone?
     
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    Because Android doesn't try and force a touch-centric UI on non-touch devices, like for example smart-TVs which have their own UIs that are more suitable for large screen remote control operation, and all iOS and Win Phone devices are mobile touch-screen devices of course. The Win 8 Start Screen is fine on a tablet or a touch-screen laptop, but very clumsy and clunky when it's forced onto a mouse controlled desktop system which doesn't have a touch-screen, which is what MS were doing. And if one does have a touch-screen controlled desktop system....look up "Gorilla arm".
    Touchscreen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    ...also I don't want to be putting fingerprints all over my desktop monitor screen.

    Anyway Windows on tablets and phones has been a bit of a flop so far and not very popular, certainly in this country, I just don't see them at all now. Tablet only Win RT is now discontinued. Want mobile? It's either Android or iOS for phones and tablets now.
     
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    Miracle update... the new Windows 10 actually works on my ten year-old PC!

    I installed it from an ISO and put it on its own partition. I haven't poked into it yet, just enough to discover that (a) Grub no longer appears so I can't boot to my Linux Mint, and (b) reinstalling my beloved Rollback RX on my c: (Win7) drive makes the Win10 loader boot loop, trying to fix the problem, until I uninstall it. Neither of those surprise me and I plan to delve into them later.

    Regardless, it's kind of a thrill to see that Windows is progressing.
     
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    Most used apps put on desktop. Rest are in start menu.

    Windows 95 start menu was a revelation back then, cause Explorer and Start were replacing Program manager which was way worse.

    So yea, you're probably one of the very few people who didn't like it.

    Windows 1-3 didn't even have a proper desktop, for that matter, so unlike 95 you were literally forced to deal with the inefficiencies of its folder system.

    Windows 98 added the Quick launch bar for frequently used apps, IIRC, and also allowed you to pin custom ones to the task bar.

    Windows Vista put search which made the start menu a bit deprecated since most people rarely really navigated it.

    The Start menu is more efficient to use than the start screen without a tablet for factor, but it's been pretty much deprecated since Vista IMO, due to the search.

    It makes sense in 10 only because they found a better way to push metro onto users. It's still basically the start screen, just smaller. It's hilarious how no one complains simply because it looks like what they are used to and didn't want to change.
     
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    Oh well, Windows 10 looks hopeful but I couldn't accept abandoning those two items in favor of it. It didn't seem to have a cut-and-dried way of uninstalling itself and this didn't work either, so I Paragonned back to a previous incarnation of W7 only... will no doubt try the next build.
     
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    I wonder if, by installing W10 on a USB flash, it will install itself separately from all the gremlins on my hard drive, and I'd have to access BIOS' boot options to even launch it?
     
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    Windows 10 Tech Preview gets its first big update: One-click upgrade is awesome

    Overall, Windows 10 Technical Preview build 9860 is rather impressive. It’s obviously still very much a work in progress, but I’m excited by Microsoft’s accelerated release cadence. If Microsoft can keep it up and release a new build every couple of weeks, and it continues to listen to tester feedback, then the final release of Windows 10 might actually be a useful, decent operating system.
     

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