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  1. wolf9653

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    Maybe gorilla glass isn't what it used to be. I had a motorola backflip before this that had the g.g. Since I've dropped it more than a few times on concrete, and even at a bit of a height and it only got tiny chips on the side, I was pretty impressed.G.G. became a high priority in my new phone, which wound up being a note. well, it got it's first drop today, after about 6 weeks of ownership. from my dest to the hard floor. it spidered out. that seemed a bit lame. So I took out my backflip and dropped it from my desk, and even a bit higher. It took the abuse like a champ. I think they must have reformulated it, or made it thinner, or something. I just watched a few demo videos on gorilla glass, and from what I've seen g.g. should have laughed at that fall. Right now I believe gorilla glass is nothing special, and pretty much on (or below) par with anything else. Unfortunately I didn't have my new credit card when I bought it (i used debit) so the purchase insurance isn't there.
     

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    Sorry to hear about your troubles...just a thought, but maybe your device had defective glass. If so, you might be able to get a replacement.
     
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    If anybody has been successful in having a glass face warranted , other than in the first week or 2 I'd love to hear about it. But to me it sounds like wasting an hour on hold and transferred around to hear 'warrantee doesn't cover abuse". Which is , of course a cop out, since during the course of normal use every cell phone gets dropped from a height of 3 feet at least once. Which should be accounted for in a sound engineering, or it is not fit for it's stated purpose.
    in hindsight, given the size of the glass I should have gotten insurance, or kept it in a case 100% of the time. but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a thin phone. and I hate screen savers.
     
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    Do you care to comment on weather gorilla glass has changed?
    or why there is a seeming difference between the same material on two different phones?
     
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    Dropped mine in the store right after paying for it. :eek:

    Lucky they have padded floors and so the first thing i did was go home and order a case.
     
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    I haven't managed to drop this phone yet (although I was very close once) but I do have a habit of letting my phone fall once in a while due to child interference ;) so I hope this is not a common problem.

    I do assume (no experience to back it up) that every two pieces of glass are different and the bigger the piece the more fragile it will be. I also noted that all the demos on Gorilla's website show head on impacts (as do most drop tests videos on YouTube). I would be sure that side impacts would not work out so good.

    Corning claim that GG2 is thinner than the first version but I don't know which version is installed in the Note (they are not clear on their website).

    So I cannot really help you much except offer my sympathy.

    Regards,
    Eric Ritchie.
     
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    Interesting thought.
    "same strength, scratch resistance, and impact resistance, but at 20% thinner than the original"
    Sounds like there might be some growing pains at work here.
     
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    My note fell out of my shirt pocket, onto tarmac, down a flight of stone steps and into some gravel. The corners are a bit bashed up and there is a tiny scratch in the glass (which incidentally is not Corning Gorilla Glass but another brand of toughened glass)
     
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    That's what I thought.
    corning's website lists it:
    CORNING
     
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    Mine got scratched while taking notes using the stylus, maybe there was a speck of sand stuck to the stylus,I don't know...

    Now I have a screen protector on all the time
     
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    I suspect the Corning site is just a rogue entry. No specifications list I have seen for the note has specified GG, just Toughened, oleophobic glass. GG is a known brand and therefore a selling point so would have been explicitly mentioned if it did have it.

    The many discussions I have had on this point do state that GG is just a brand and other brands are just as good though from the amount of posts of people having scratched theirs including own (though it is an exceedingly tiny scratch for such a long, stone and gravity filled journey) that the glass used on the note isn't quite up to Corning's standards.
     
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    I agree it is not up to corning's standard. It was the standard I had expected it to meet.
    Me senses some kind of unholy alliance between corning and samsung on this, other than samsung buys glass from corning and is proud of it.
     
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    Could it be that since the glass is bigger it would be more susceptible to cracking that a smaller one?
    It's Gorilla Glass, not glass from the planet Krypton. I don't mean to sound unsympathetic to your situation, but if you dropped it, it would be either purposely or by accident. Either way, it has happened and there's nothing you can do except to learn from this experience.
    Best of luck to you.
     
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    Thanks Ian. good googling!
    now it does make sense.
    True there probably isn't much I can do, besides write the manufacturers and express my discontent.
    and not to make gorilla glass a defining criteria in purchasing a cell phone next time.
    or at least, not gorilla glass 2.
     
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    For its size the Note is surprisingly light. Being so thin and light I'm sure the phone's structural rigidity is not very good. The HTC One X, iPhone 4 and Nokia Lumia 800 have very rigid, but not particularly thin, cases. The Lumia 800 and One X have solid unitary shells and the glass is moulded into the case contours at the sides so that probably adds strength. In the end, Notes have large screens and for that reason they will always be a bit more vulnerable.

    Ian
     
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    tis true. the backflip had a titanuim (or looks like titanium)around the screen, and as a frame. the note has a very fine , i guess sheet metal surround, that I can see under a magnifier.
     
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    One video I saw that was comparing glass, gg, and gg2 showed how many pounds of force it took to break the glass.
    Gg was like 40psi or something, right on the middle of the curved glass; which is the strongest point!
    Anywhere else, it's much weaker.

    I believe GG is as strong as ever, but it really depends on how it lands on whether or not it breaks.
    It's more known for being "scratch resistant" than shatter proof.
    I have a Captivate, just updated to Gingerbread, with a cracked screen (gorilla glass), from a 2-1/2 drop (from the car seat to the asphalt) for sale btw.
    Any offers?


    Edit: Captivate works fine once you figure out where the icons are.
    Green Mobile said $130 to fix, and that the market value after fixing should be about $150.
    I don't want to mess with it.
    Green mobile offered me $40.
    Anybody want it for a wee bit more?
     
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    My niece has a spidered iPhone screen so that's no better either.
     

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