My official full upgrade date is Oct 20th, but I was approved to get the full upgrade rate on any phone right now. So, I wanted to get the G1 on the 22nd. Since I don't have 3G here, yet, I would have to order it online/over the phone. I called and they said that for the pre-order, they can't "fix" the price to $179 over the phone. HOWEVER, they said once I received the bill with the $299 charge on it, to call and they will credit my account the $120! Great news for me! I went with black, after all, because the keyboard on the brown was silver-ish. That was a deal breaker.