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  1. n00dz

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    There's 2 new phones coming to virgin mobile that're both gonna have Android 2.3 on it. Why would they update our phone (that's now at a cheaper prize) rather than making us spend 2-300 dollars on a new one.
     

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    Why would they? because they said they would
     
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    Pushing Gingerbread to the OpV makes perfect sense. They could then jack the price back up on the phone for new customers. At this time, the OpV is the best phone that VM has... and looking at the upcoming phones doesn't dissuade me from keeping mine.
     
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    The majority of people don't care whether it's 2.2 or 2.3. And the last thing you want to do is raise pricing on a product that has been dropping in pricing over the last 6 months.
     
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    We may be thankful the update is slow to come.

    Per Engadget "Unfortunately, the Thunderbolt isn't the only phone falling victim to pulled revamps; the LG Optimus S on Sprint had its Gingerbread update kiboshed, though users have had two weeks to get it -- plenty of time for anyone to experience some of the bugs, which included the phone not charging, the SD card not being recognized when the phone's connected to the computer, no access to data services, and predictive text on the virtual keyboard stopped working. It's disappointing to see this happen so soon after the Kyocera Echo update went through a similar debacle. [SprintFeed]"

    So maybe we are better off waiting.
     
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    Wow... major fail on the update. :(
     
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    Its true VM's not going to bother with the update when they can just suade us to just buy new phones that already come with 2.3 and yeah the update is an epic failure with all the bugs and crap. I think I'll stay with my Optimus V for now or at least till the Optimus Black comes out even if that means sometime next year.
     
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    I like messing with my phone as much as the next person but 2.3 doesn't really bring much that I have to have.

    My stable bumblebee 2.4 works great.
     
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    What, exactly, is gained in the upgrade to 2.3?

    I'm sure there are lots of minor changes and upgrades, but is there really any major upgrade that would make folks want 2.3 enough to invest $200 onto another device just to get it?

    I had the Intercept when it got the OTA upgrade from 2.1 to 2.2, and though 2.2 did make the poor old SsI run a tiny bit more fluidly, I was pretty much underwhelmed by the whole process.

    My OV is still running 2.2.1 and I've yet to see or hear of any practical reason that would make me want to upgrade it to 2.2.2, much less move it up to 2.3.

    Am I just missing something here?
     
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    The geek in me likes quite a lot of the changes and fixes coming in Gingerbread, but if they screw with the incoming call screen (removing buttons) then I don't want it. That's a deal-breaker for me.
     
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    Thanks for that link NoNameFace, it was very informative and confirmed my basic suspicion that there is actually very little in the 2.3 upgrade that would interest me personally.

    I'm as "geeky" as anybody I know (I write process automation routines for 2D and 3D Cadd and solid modeling software) but to me, a phone is a phone and not much else.

    A few thoughts on the 2.3 platform.

    The black status bar is nice looking but certainly not a $200 improvement.

    The one-touch word selection and copy/paste feature looks really nice, but is that going to work with just the stock keyboard, or will it work with swype as well? Somehow, I doubt it. Gotta have my swype.

    The various new shortcut controls to menu items seems very minor and already doable with several freestanding apps anyway.

    I suppose that internet calling is a good thing that would allow me to make voice calls over the internet to the three people I know who actually have, and use, SIP accounts. I'd almost bet, however, that VM will find a way to disable this feature on their phones anyway. Wouldn't want their customers getting free voice minutes or anything like that.

    The near-field communication (NFC) tag reader thing sounds interesting, but I have yet to see a meaningful real-world use for this technology actually implemented.

    I suppose all the various enhancements for gaming will be meaningful to some and these improvements alone are probably enough to justify the $200 investment to them. Gaming, however, just isn't my thing. My OV has exactly two games installed, Sudoku and Freecell, and I can't remember the last time I played either.

    Thanks again, but I think I'll hold out for 3.0.
     
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    Yeah, I don't see much there to get excited about. There's already a gingerbread keyboard in the market, and that's what I'm using now. All the other stuff...eh.
     
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    Yeah I highly recommend anyone who doesn't use Swype to download Gingerbread Keyboard. It's worlds better than the default keyboard. I dropped Swype for it because Swype would get sluggish and buggy after a while, but now there's no way I'd go back because I love it.
     
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    Is GB KB really better than Swype? I can "type" faster on Swype than on a full sized KB (using Swype beta, no bugs). Anyone use "Thumb KB"? (free Amazon app today), looks interesting. I have Thumb, SwiftkeyX, and Flex9, sitting in my Amazon pile, but haven't tried any of them because I don't think I could leave Swype.
     
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    I've had my Opt V for 4 months now and its a champ....I may get the usual force close now and then but thats it. And 2.2 is perfect...I thought I wanted the Triumph but after the problems i've been hearing about it, i'm staying with the V. And as for 2.3...if your enjoying 2.2 then why rush....let the bugs get worked out first then upgrade....saves on headaches.....read the forums...ppl talk.
     
  16. AndyOpie150

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    Y'all need to quit wasting your time and holding your breath. If they ever come out with a Gingerbread update it won't be half as good as the new IHO-CM7 ROM's. The Devs are making improvements to it on a weekly basis and before long there wont be any glitches left to fix. All the major Items work,and there's only a few glitches left. Get off the fence and do something already.
    Back in May I didn't know squat about any of this and very little if anything about computers and ADB and DOS. I used to be the biggest "Nuub" there was(compared to me most "Nuub's" looked like they had an overabundance of common sense and knowledge). If you look to the left you will see what I'm running. If I can do it anybody(and I do mean anybody) can. I didn't do it all on my own either,I had help from everybody in the "All Things Root" sub-forum.

    With the Gingerbreak.apk you can't hurt your phone trying to root(it may take a couple of attempts, but it will work).As long as you make sure you install a custom recovery and make a backup in said recovery(this is called a nandroid backup-or complete system backup)right after you root,you will never be able to mess your phone up so badly that you can't go back into the recovery and restore that backup.
     
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    I'm slowly working my way there. ;)

    The whole custom rom thing is scary. If I completely brick my phone then that's it. Being a single parent of two teens, I can't justify the cost of another phone.
     
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    As long as you install a custom recovery(aospCWMod is the recommended recovery for the IHO-CM7 ROM's),and make a backup in the recovery,right after rooting with the Gingerbreak.apk, then you can't mess your phone up to the point that you/the members of this forum can't fix it.
    Also read my thread on "The Truth About ROM Manager", It seems like a lot of new members are confused about what they can do(and how)and what they can't do with this really handy app.

    I'm not sure why you want to unroot and try a different method of rooting,but the Gingerbreak.apk is the safest on the planet for the "V" and would be a good choice.
     
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    Before I took the plunge and went with JerryScript's BACKside CM7 my phone was very unstable, I was running stock ROM rooted. It would reboot, it would freeze, ringtones would stop working, vibration would stop. I was lucky if I got 3 days of uptime.

    I had 6 1/2 days of uptime running the 08312011 build of BACKside CM7, it would have been longer but I had to do some testing for AndyOpie with ROM Manager.

    When I rooted my phone and started using Link2SD it made a world of difference, when I installed CM7 it made me love my mobile again.
     
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