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Has anyone come up with a reason Maps runs all the time yet?

Discussion in 'Android Apps & Games' started by mscheaf, Feb 25, 2014.

  1. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    So it's 2014 now. Was wondering if anyone has figured out why Maps always runs 100% of the time? It has nothing to do with other apps, this is a clean factory install of 4.1. I have no other apps on here yet. None. I have all locationing services turned off, I have never opened navigation or any of the apps that use maps and I have never clicked on a map link on the browser. Not once. Ever. This phone was running Maps right out of the box and it hasn't quit once. So, has anyone got a real answer as to why? Why Maps needs to run 24-7 and use up resources and battery (up to 20% some days)?
     

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  2. Rukbat

    Rukbat Extreme Android User

    Are you sure it's running, or is it just resident in RAM? (Unused RAM is wasted RAM in Android.)
     
  3. kmf

    kmf Android Enthusiast

    Maps always shows up in my "Running" apps as well. Not sure why, but it does.
     
  4. funkylogik

    funkylogik share the love peeps ;)

    Something must be using it. I dont know what though. It isnt in my running apps and the fact that its using a huge chunk of your battery life means somethings going mad mith it.
    Try installing GSam Battery Monitor, do a discharge with that running and see if it can shed some light.
    Maps is safe to disable but it would be better to find the cause. Another app must be using it
     
  5. Stuntman

    Stuntman Android Expert

    Are you using any task manager? Task managers that are configured to kill apps tend to confuse the Android OS.

    I recommend you just update Maps if you haven't done so. Then just launch the app and make sure you close it down by pressing the back button until you exit. Then wait a couple of days to see if it is still draining your battery.

    Another thing you can do is power off your phone. If your phone has a removable battery, take the battery out, wait about 30 seconds and put the battery back in. Then power on your phone again.

    Maps doesn't run on my phone. I checked my running apps as well as my battery stats. I don't use Maps. I use Waze.
     
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  6. vosg

    vosg Android Expert

    Maps has a service that runs when you have Location Settings turned on. The maps app isn't running though, just the service. If you don't like it, turn off in Location Setting.
     
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  7. bloggsey

    bloggsey Lurker

    Google tracks location continuously, look where you have been here. As said, turn off if you object, can be useful though.
    edit: use your gmail login to check where you have been if locations is set.
     
  8. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    Why does it need to be loaded into memory anyway if I have never used it or anything that uses it once?
     
  9. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    Fresh factory phone. No apps downloaded.
     
  10. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    As I said in the first post, all location settings are disabled.
     
  11. Petrah

    Petrah Psychotic Female

    Here's the best explanation you're going to find.

     
  12. itsallgood

    itsallgood Android Expert

    as others have said, if you close down the app after using it, it shouldn't be running or using RAM. I use maps daily and always close the app when done, using the stock apps manager. Never had a problem with it running when it wasn't suppose to.
     
  13. RyanB

    RyanB Distributor of Awesome

    OP, I get the impression that you're fairly new to Android. The OS is based on Linux, which is designed in a way that's very different from most people's frame of reference which is Windows. With Windows, anything that's in RAM is open AND running (which uses power/electricity/battery). With Linux, open and running are two DIFFERENT things. An app that's just open is not consuming power from your battery, and is ready to be used without loading fresh, and again isn't using battery until you give it reason to, like loading the app and viewing it on the screen. This is how the OS is designed, so the behavior can't really be altered. Now what I believe will happen as you use the handset (and put more apps on it) is that the other apps will be kept open, and Maps will likely be closed down to make room for them if you're using the other apps and neglecting Maps. You really need not worry about it being open. It's functioning as designed.
     
  14. wonky

    wonky Member

    Google has huge financial incentives to know everything about you. That's why it's running. It increases their ad revenue. They do backroom deals with our data and their users. You may also want to check their CIA and NSA links. It's not anything you are doing wrong.

    I noticed Maps running in the background when signing in to a gmail account for the first time on my first Android phone, and I fully expected this to happen which is why I did this away from home on a separate wi-fi network. I am already welll aware of how Google acts in Chrome (on the Windows desktop) and their numerous privacy breaches. Anyway, Maps was never started by me and all location services were disabled. I noticed this on my first phone. Since then ALL Google apps have been disabled after rooting.

    Virtually everything in the OS compromises your privacy in some way, and I still shake my head that people are using their services without questioning them. They have huge wi-fi databases built all over the world and they cross-link and profile their users like crazy. Your Google search history. Emails and basically all communications are archived. YouTube use. Google scripts on websites. Social networking cross-linking. All the major companies are using your data to sell you out and to increase the amount of revenue they get by knowing more about you. It isn't just Google.

    My current phone also has zero Google apps running, and I intend for it to stay like this.
     
  15. valorian

    valorian Android Expert


    If you are that paranoid why are you using an Android phone at all?
     
  16. wonky

    wonky Member

    By calling me paranoid, are you making the suggestion Google has:
    * no links with the CIA?
    * no business with the NSA?
    * have some valid reason why Maps starts by itself, without you invoking it?

    If so, please share.
    Google's business is all about location-based data and selling ads based on this. It goes without saying (at least I think it's common sense) for those controlling the OS to be doing this.

    I am using Android because I consider it the best of a bad bunch of new wave of OSs selling us all out.

    That includes Windows Phone and iOS and Blackberry. Symbian is basically dead, and so too is Windows Mobile. They are barely usable in the modern world. So I personally use the tools I can, while hopefully still maintaining a semblance of privacy and accepting the realities of Google's business and invasiveness and ripping out much of it.

    My main phone is still Symbian. Offline calendar, long battery life. However, it's pretty much garbage for watching videos and any sort of multimedia or modern web pages or games.

    That's what I use the Google stuff for, but without the garbage Google spyware installed.
     
  17. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    Well Google did tell the Feds to back off when they asked it to divulge somebody's GMail password. They had to take Google to a court injunction.

    Maps runs in the background when you FIRST sign in because the phone creates account links between all the Google apps. You start asking questions when it still is running a couple of days later (assuming all sync is done or turned off) and after a few reboots.

    However, it is true that Google uses location based data for its ads. It will show relevant ads for the country/state you are in. However Google knowing anything about you is pretty easy to circumvent. Just use a dummy Google account and don't link your credit card to it. They just know that person A is receiving this, but they have no idea if any information you are feeding them is correct. Or just root the phone and use one a more secure custom ROM. I think there are those which removed everything Google except for the Play Store.
     
  18. valorian

    valorian Android Expert

    I'm not saying they don't. What I'm saying if you are that worried about what information they may or may not be gathering then don't use a smart phone. That way there is no way they can get information from you.
     
  19. wonky

    wonky Member

    If you want to operate in the modern world, it often means buying modern tools. By not doing so you're unnecessarily crippling yourself. I prefer to buy modern tools and get on with it, while throwing out the crap that 99.9% of people run on their phones. All the major vendors want more details from you, not to mention countless third parties with their apps.

    I don't put contact info on any Google device, nor my SIM in one. And I prefer to have no front camera. For obvious reasons (can easily be switched on without your knowledge, which is true for laptops too).

    If you have an hour or two handy, I recommend How The NSA Hacks Your iPhone (Presenting DROPOUT JEEP) | Zero Hedge

    The video discussed here will open your eyes, big-time.
     
  20. LizMac

    LizMac Android Enthusiast

    You certainly make some very valid points; and while I don't completely agree with you I would never say that you are wrong to be on guard. I often worry about my kid and her friends and the ease with which they'll download some mindless crap for their phone or laptop - not caring one whit that its collecting tons of info about them.

    I'm often cautious and I read the EULA's. If I can't easy find a good reason for something than I won't accept the terms. If all they want is to send me ads, that's fine. If I love the app I'll use it and ignore the ads or turn on ad blocker.
     
  21. Slug

    Slug Check six!
    VIP Member

    None of this is answering the OP's question.

    If you want to discuss Google's business supposed practices or conspiracy theories involving government agencies, please take it to the Politics & Current Affairs sub-forum. Otherwise, please confine your efforts to assisting the OP.
     
  22. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    Lol. I rooted and uninstalled maps. Problem solved. Sure I can't use maps anymore, but I didn't have maps on my phone for 99% of my life, I will survive.
     
  23. mscheaf

    mscheaf Member
    Thread Starter

    It was listed under RUNNING APPLICATIONS and was using 10% of my battery. No longer. Maps uninstalled and everything still works just fine.
     
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  24. wonky

    wonky Member

    Maps is never completely killed as long as it's on your device, just as Google wants it. A 'force stop' is - at best - a temporary measure to stop it and that's only if you've found it to be misbehaving. Most users just don't know when it's running or when this-or-that has been activated on their phones.

    Again, just as Google (and its partners) want it.
     
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