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  1. AndroidFan007

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    Hi,
    I am having Iphone4 and plannign to move to HTC Desire HD. I am not sure if I am making the right decision or not. Can someone suggest me that is it worth going for this change ?

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    Hey Mathewdro.. Are you using HTC Desire HD ? IF yes then can you please tell me if this mobile has any cons ?
     
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    Before u switch over, go n check out the phone at a store and listen to some music. If ur a music lover and love to hear it on ur phone, then you might be a little disappointed with the speakers. However, with a decent set of headphones, its at par with my iPod or even better. Besides this, cant think of too many problems with it. If u tweak ur settings properly, the phone battery will last you anywhere between 1 n half to 2 days, depending on the use. U'll love the freedom to customize your phone on Android.

    Oh Yes, the HTC Sense website doesn't work fully yet, atleast for most of the people.
     
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    Nooo dont do it. The Desire HD is worse. If you want Android wait for Galaxy S2!
    iPhone 4 owns this phone. Ok maybe not by being as open as Android but you get more apps on iPhone and it's easier to jailbreak than root/install custom ROM on it.

    If your coming from iPhone 4, you'll be downgrading so don't do it. Getting a DHD now is a total waste of money.

    The cons compared to iPhone 4 are:-
    Loud speaker nowhere as good
    Battery is nowhere as good
    Screen is nowhere as good. Contrast ratio and pixel density is nowhere as good as iPhone.
    Camera is nowhere as good as iPhone 4 especially at recording at HD.
    No front facing camera
    App Store has more apps right now
    Also iPhone has PUSH email for all Yahoo, Hotmail and others where as Android does not. Hotmail is supposed to be coming soon, MS said.
    I find screenshoting a useful feature, DHD can't do it unless you root but from my experience Galaxy S allows me to install apps that require root straight on to stock Android, you can't with DHD.
     
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    wow surpsise comment from THE ANDROID there










    erm not!

    It all boils down to the individual for the gazillionth time. For me, coming from an iphone 3G to a DHD, i am in no way disappointed with the switch. I would have got an android purely based for the Droid TV app!! and then theres the bonus of not using the giant pain in the ass that is itunes! But to each their own
     
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    Thanks everyone for the reply. The reason behind looking for Android phone is that I love android OS. after lots of research, I thought HTC desire HD is the best android phone in market . But looks like I should wait a bit more to see if another good phone is coming or not.
     
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    Warnings and Infractions have been given and a few posts deleted.

    Whilst it is fine to post your opinion be it positive or negative, please do it respectfully. If you are not happy with a post and believe it contravenes the site rules please report it and do not reply.
     
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    The rest of your opinions are somewhat valid but the camera is terrible on iPhone4
     
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    I'm with this guy.

    more cons:
    music player has weak volume
    sim card slides out of place (so you're always notified of this "can't detect sim card" or something)
    volume buttons and sleep button are difficult to press
    no Mac sync software
     
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    I prefer the DHD screen,its clear and crisp enough and the sheer size more than makes up it having less pixels etc,easier browsing too as less need for zooming in/out ans scrolling
    the SDcard and sim are removable without taking the battery out
    bigger phone memory
    removable battery which lasts plenty long enough
    more than enough apps than you'll ever need
    full bluetooth options,not limited
    doesn't drop anywhere near as many calls
    fully customisable,wallpapers,shortcuts,widgets get things done quicker,nicer,neater and your way
    face time is a gimmick to look good on the tv ads and is only over wifi anyhow,I had an LG 5 years ago that supported it over the regular network and used it once on the 2nd day of owning it,they're useless
    personally I think all loudspeakers are lame,in such a small device they;re never going to be great,a good set of earphones are a must
    Apple is their way or no way,Android is fun and HTC will go cosmic this year as a brand
    oh and my girlfreinds grandmother just got her Iphone:D
    no ball and chain either:D
     
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    HTC HD any day over the iphone... can you change the battery? can you add memory? can you get 60% of your apps for free? hmm what else... oh ya I dont need to use a special program to load things on my phone... puketunes resource hog!!!
     
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    It all depends on what you want to use it for.

    But you really, really need to get hands on with one before parting with your money. You could find yourself very disappointed otherwise.

    Here's my take on the Desire HD when compared to the iPhone4

    Areas where it beats the iPhone4:
    "Open" nature of Android (somewhat diluted by HTC but can be worked around with rooting)
    Google connectivity (by far the biggest pro for me) including...
    ...Contact management
    Big Screen
    Wireless file sharing between devices

    Areas that are lacking when compared to the iPhone4:
    Loudspeaker is not fit for purpose on the DHD
    Battery life is not ideal if the DHD is used for any purpose other than SMS/Calls
    Screen resolution is poor and SLCD screen is embarrassingly washed out next to iPhone
    The available apps are nowhere near as good - not by a long shot
    MAC compatibility is hopeless

    The most contentious issue is the multimedia capture. Without a doubt for some reason the iPhone4 takes consistently better pictures than the Desire HD but if one takes the time to fiddle with the settings, frame your shots etc etc then the Desire can produce stunning results. This is essentially irrelevant for most users though as they want a point-and-click camera on their phone. The iPhone4 excels in this area.

    Video capture is a no-brainer. The iPhone4 wins.

    IMHO the choice boils down to this: How much are you invested in the "Google cloud"? If you don't use gmail, google calendar, google docs etc etc the move may well be a step down for you.
     
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    The battery on the iPhone 4 is awesome, you don't need to change it.
    Add memory, well no you can't but iPhone 4 comes with 16GB minimum which is 8GB more than the Desire HD.
    Well you get better apps in App Store and a lot are free as well or super cheap.
    "iTunes" was bad when I used it on Windows, slow and forever to load up , I think its purposely made bad for Windows users so if they have an iDevice, they should get a Mac for smooth performance. Mac WLM is really bad on Mac too so I guess it cancels out as MS don't give us Mac users a decent Office or WLM so Apple doesn't give the millions of iDevice owners on Windows a decent iTunes.
     
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    I have had my DHD for about 3 months now and i love it, however my brother yesterday got an ipod touch 4, and to be honest i was a little blown away by it. The screen, although smaller, is superior. Its sharper (higher res), and just seems to have nicer color reproduction.

    The OS, although inferior to android in terms of customizations and usability, is certainly far more smoother. This is down to GPU acceleration and honestly is't a joy swiping across screens, pinching to zoom etc. It's smoothness no android user has ever experienced. GPU acceleration is coming to android though in Ice Cream (looking forward to that!).

    The camcorder is also awesome! I tried it out in my room, which was certainly not ideal for video capture (low light), and i was shocked when i played it back. It didn't drop a frame. Smooth as butter. I really wish the DHD was that good with low light, and in all honesty it should be because i think the iPhone 4 and DHD have very similar sensors. HTC really effed up the camcorder on our phones. Daylight recording is good though. Sound on the iPhone is also far superior to the DHD. Both loud speaker and during video capture.

    Lastly the app selection.. God Damn! I spent five minutes just scrolling through some of the app selection and that made me a sad panda. Why doesn't android have such great apps? I know android is certainly catching up but in all honesty it's still nowhere near. My bro got this game Real Racing 2 and holy f*ck those graphics are awesome!

    I have to be honest im a little jealous right now. The DHD imo is still a better choice (that's why i bought it), but the iPod/iPhone 4 have plenty of things going their way. I would certainly consider getting an ipod touch. Alright enough rambling from me.
     
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    You missed my point. When your battery dies on the iPhone you need to send it to apple to change it.. I can just walk into a store and buy one cheaper then you could to send yours out. After a year you will need an extended warranty to get one, not I. I had a 16 gig card from my original phone, but if I want to I can walk into any Staples, Futureshop etc and buy a 32 gig card and upgrade it. You are stuck with what you get not I. When you buy apple no matter what it is you are stuck with what you get. Ok yes easy to use not nearly as customizable as android. When I started getting into computers back in the day they had mac and they had windows 3.1 There was maybe 2 or 3 games for the mac and so much much more for windows. This is why I went towards windows over mac. mac gave the outlook of boring and windows allowed me to have the option of after doing work to have fun in which I only like to use computers for in the first place. Thats how I see Android... I can customize it have fun and do so so much more with it then the boring old iPhone... Maybe if I was 100 years old and barely could use technology I would buy a iPhone or Mac.
     
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    It seems that you've got it all muddled up.

    You state that, when it came to computers, you valued PCs over MACs because PCs had more games and were more fun.

    With the current phone situation iPhones have more games and are more "fun", aren't they?

    Or is the "fun" connected with customization and not available applications?

    Or is "fun" essentially irrelevant (thus making your point irrelevant too)?

    I don't want to misinterpret your post but it does seem that you're letting brand loyalty (based on an old experience with non-comparable devices) cloud your judgement somewhat.
     
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    Yes my decision is based on a previous experience because that is how I am with electronic products. If I choose a company for a reason and that reason fails to meet my needs then I change companies. For that reason I never got into mac and I would always choose a PC. Games on my phone are irrelevant as I only do my gaming on my desktop because phones cant handle the graphic intensive games I play. Yes my fun is connect with customization also the fact that it's open source and most things are free. Some other things include but not limited to, are being able to change my battery, being able to upgrade memory, which are two major things in my opinion. Mac makes very "take it as it is" devices which never has peaked my interest. I am a tech and a person who likes to customize and tweak my electronic devices. For this reason I choose Android and love my new HD phone and would never pick and "here you go this is what you get" iPhone. Furthermore fun is not irrelevant, no one likes to work all the time unless your a robot lol :p
     
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    Well , just have to chip in :

    I had iPhone 3G back in the days, now owning DHD. Mainly I bought DHD because of its customizability (is that a word?) and open source SW, "open source HW" : battery replaceable, battery replaceable, memory card support etc. So these all DO make sense to average user : Why these things could not or should not exist in phone?

    However, I do agree that iPhone4 has far superior battery life, display and loudspeaker. These 3 things really shine in Phone ! But the phone itself is...well, since my english is not so good, I just settle for "not as free/open" as DHD.

    These all being said, I am still waiting a super mobile phone, a kind of hybrid of thee two phones, DHD and Iphone. And I am thinking Nexus S should be one step closer to the superior phone. OR let me be more precise : I need phone like DHD, but with twice the battery power, display like iPhone4 retina display and loudspeaker as good as in iPhone4, and I would be a happy camper :) Even these 3 things seem like really small thing to add to any phone, so far nobody never really did that, except Apple. (I dont know why DHD ended up with so poor battery life, display and really poor loudspeaker, but anyway , they did)
     
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    I don't think it's fair to (1) bring up the history of your experience as a gamer to explain why you don't respect Apple products and then (2) claim that the reason you chose the PC over the mac is now irrelevant to gamers who choose iOS over Android now that Apple has that advantage on handhelds. Just because you personally claim to be too hardcore to tolerate the inferior graphics of handhelds doesn't mean that's true of knowledgeable and experienced gamers everywhere.

    You spend too much time characterizing the personality of Apple devices and users: "Mac makes very 'take it as it is' devices which never has peaked my interest. I am a tech . . . and would never pick and 'here you go this is what you get' iPhone."

    Again -- not fair to people who are techs and choose the iPhone for entirely different reasons, nor to people who jailbreak their iPhone 4 and/or write customized software and firmware for it.

    Some people choose Android phones with keyboards specifically to play games, and I can see making an argument for physical hardware on certain Android phones being better for gaming. But if you were really being fair, you'd then admit that the library of available games (and I mean free games alone) is inarguably greater if you don't include pirated legacy games. You'd also admit that gameplay is quicker and smoother on an iPhone than any Android phone currently in existence. That probably won't always be the case -- especially now that the PSP NGP is going to use Android -- but it's still a major factor.

    It's entirely possible for smart and technically savvy people to prefer gaming on an iPhone to Android devices -- Android is both new and non-hardware-specific, which means more potential glitches and lagging. No reason to assume every Apple user is simply too dense to buy an Android device.

    It's also out of line to resort to ageism to explain why you prefer the Desire to an iPhone. "Maybe if I was 100 years old" is, again, you maligning users who might have valid personal or work-related reasons for buying an iPhone with attacks on their physical age and, by inference, technical competence, both of which you and I know nothing about.

    One example: In the States, it's a given that most studio musicians and people in the film industry use macs because those devices are most compatible with those of producers, studios and individual clients (years ago, that used to include design people before MS incorporated better gamma correction and could run programs like Photoshop; it still does in a lot of design studios). There were always technical things you couldn't do on a Mac, but technical people have always used them when the work they do is Mac-dependent and when specific kinds of smoothness and stability are crucial in specific contexts. It really is unfair to suggest that musicians like St. Vincent and surgically precise laptop DJs like Akufen and Michael Zorn are "100 years old" because they use and prefer Mac devices. And those same qualifications apply to the iPhone, which can be used as a controller for Digidesign hardware and software, and is why the iPad has driven at least two virtual mixing board companies out of business. Tourists aren't buying them for that reason, professional technical people are.

    Every single point you're making suffers because of your assertions about the character of Apple devices and users. The bottom line: No user who chooses a device carefully is making a worse decision than you have. No user is necessarily at a technical level which is inferior to yours simply because they choose an Apple device.

    Besides which, there's nothing wrong with being a hundred years old.

    The irony is that what you're saying about Apple and Apple users is itself an old cliche, but I would never judge you or your technical expertise because of that, nor would I make assumptions about your age or relevance. All I would say is that we're better off talking about features than users.

    The iPhone 4 is still an amazing device; it's also a bit too fragile and non-customizable in ways that the Desire HD is not. In the past, I'd have recommended the Desire in part because AT&T doesn't always have reliable service. That reason is now history, since Verizon offers the iPhone, and the choice comes down to the preferences of users who needn't be profiled by us no matter which device they choose.

     
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    I do agree with this underlined above, however it is percieved or someone characterizes it is merly their opinion. Which is merly what I was stating here. People can take it how they want and think I'm prejudice thats their opinon and I respect that discussion. If such people who bought the iPhone bought a Android device instead may of found it better. To each their own, but yes I expressed my opinion on exactly why I would choose an Android device over a Mac. For example if you got bad service and crappy food at a restaruant would you go back for more? No. Which is why I never looked at Mac devices the same again. Over 15 years ago I found Windows to be more user friendly with a bonus selection of games.
     
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    I think we differ in our ideas of what makes an opinion constructive. In my view, there's nothing wrong with preferring one device (or even company) to another. What bothers me just a little is negative characterizations of people who choose or prefer a more conspicuously mainstream device. I could believe you if you said you didn't mean to characterize them that way, but the phrases and tone you're using are fairly charged.

    Besides which, all the iPhone bashing probably doesn't help the person who's trying to decide whether to keep the phone they already have or buy a new one instead.

    Let's take brands and operating systems out of the equation: The iPhone 4 isn't very old at this point and neither is any contract associated with it. Personally, I'd have to have a damned good reason to switch carriers and hardware in the middle of a contract.

    My personal advice would be for AndroidFan007 to keep the iPhone 4 and be patient, then shop for a great Android phone when it's financially prudent to do so. Whatever Android's advantages might be, do they really warrant blowing huge amounts of money that could be saved by waiting for a relatively new contract to expire and an expensive phone to see enough use?
     
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    Funnily enough I have been in this predicament, however with the added bonus of being able to sell the iPhone 4 to buy a DHD and potentially make some money off doing so.

    I haven't received the DHD yet but I'm looking forward to the big screen and the openness of Android. What I'm worried about is missing the 'polish' of the iPhone and the quality of the apps. My last Android phone was an HTC Hero on Android 1.6, so I'm a little apprehensive it will just be a bigger version of that..

    Obviously I will keep both for a few days and keep whichever I prefer - luckily I got the DHD for a good price unused on eBay so will be able to sell without making a loss if I do decide to stick with the iPhone 4.
     
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    Not everyone's confident about buying their hardware on eBay.

    I'm assuming you bought an iPhone 4 from Verizon (or AT&T -- I hadn't realized they had the Desire HD as well) and are switching to a Desire HD within the same carrier. That means you sold the iPhone to another customer who uses the same carrier and apparently couldn't wait for their contract to expire.

    Would you have made a profit if you still had to buy a DHD new, before you were eligible for an upgrade?
     
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    Should have explained really, I'm in UK without a contract (I paid for my iPhone outright). Basically I can sell the iPhone 4 for silly money as they have such good residuals, (say
     
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    So that's your situation. Thanks for explaining it, though it sounds as if you could take a less significant loss which is then ameliorated by the difference in the devices' cost.

    I wonder whether the OP has the same options.
     

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