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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by karnka, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. karnka

    karnka Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    So, I had a Galaxy S i9000 and aside from the screen found it an awful user experience. I was one of the more vocal people complaining about various aspects of the software and Samsung's terrible customer support.

    I gave up on my Galaxy S and got a Milestone 2 which I am largely happy with. However for my next phone I want to go back to one without a keyboard, and get a bigger screen.

    Looking at the likes of the Atrix and the Optimus X2 they're a tiny bit chunky and the screens aren't that large and both ship with 2.2. The Xperia Arc although not having those issues is a little underpowered perhaps.

    So, HTC may yet announce something suitable (pyramid?) but the Galaxy S II actually ticks nearly every box :(

    As much as I was upset that Samsung were getting to do the Nexus S I can only presume they've learnt a lot to bring to the software implementation on the Galaxy S II. Will this phone fix the issues from the original Galaxy S.

    I wonder, could I go back on all of my outrage last year just because the phone looks really nice....

    Any thoughts?
     

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  2. Shocky

    Shocky On Probation

    I'm still enjoying my Galaxy S, been on 2.2.1 since december and phone is very fast with no lagfix.

    My only issue with the SGS is the GPS which I still find a little dodgy, but it more than makes up for this in performance and the amazing screen.

    I think you have been much too harsh on the SGS. :p
     
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  3. BitHeroes

    BitHeroes Newbie

    Hopefully, we'll know in 6 hours or so how they've handled the successor to the SGS.
     
  4. Markhypnos

    Markhypnos Well-Known Member

    Not a chance, why would you go back when youve been burned once?
     
  5. karnka

    karnka Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    On paper the SGS II is better than the alternatives. I was just hoping they'd done a better job on the software implementation than last time. Be a while before we know that I imagine.

    I doubt I'd trust them again :/
     
  6. Shocky

    Shocky On Probation

    The only problem with the Galaxy S was Samsung's choice of file system which could be easily fixed and the dodgy GPS works for some and not for others.

    That's pretty much it, what exactly were you having problems with?
     
  7. THE ANDROID

    THE ANDROID Android Enthusiast

    I agree, the filesystem was causing lag on Android 2.1 but since 2.2.1, the Galaxy S has been pretty smooth and I've installed loads of apps.

    GPS was ok for the few times I had to use it to navigate myself around my uni.
     
  8. Every manufacturer has their lemons and every company has their fair share of complaints. Don't play that stupid brand loyalty game. It is ridiculous. Nokia was once good but now is far behind. Motorola went from RAZR hell to droid heaven. LG went from a no show last year to a power player this year. Even the venerable HTC has enough hardware complaints (like the cracked Nexus One screens) to drag down their stellar update history. All the big phone makers are competitive so pick what you like. If you want to avoid issues, wait a month or two after a phone is released to see how it fares or just buy an older, stable model. The price of innovation and bleeding edge is a high level of uncertainty. Samsung is not a person you are dating. Getting burned once has no relevance against a successful company when the engineers, employees, managers, and every sight and sound and policy is changed at the drop of a hat in a competitive and fast paced environment like the tech industry. Save yourself the trouble and wasted time brooding.

    And how can you say no to that sexy slim profile and luxurious back? That back texture looks even better in video. Helluva lot better than the strange weave behind the Atrix or the flat dullness of the Optimus 2x.
     
  9. NZtechfreak

    NZtechfreak Android Expert

    I'm pretty sure I'm getting one of these, I've enjoyed my SGS throughout the time I've owned it. It steadily improved, and now on 2.2.1 (Darky's ROM) the experience is just great. I would pick that Samsung stay true to form and don't bother much with bootloader protection etc, remains to be seen how things like the Atrix will handle this.
     
  10. It is funny and sad at the same time that people were only a few months ago damning Samsung for never updating their phones and raving about Motorola and HTC updates, then the hardware bootloader protection was discovered on new phones and everyone has changed their tune and is cheering Samsung for being dev friendly. It'll be switched once again in a few months, and again, and again. I wonder how they live in their day to day lives with all the childish black and white pendulum swings.
     
  11. kefalo84

    kefalo84 Member

    I cant buy another Samsung phone...the lack of support is a deal breaker for me. I'll just wait for HTC Pyramid since it will come out before S-2.
     
  12. karnka

    karnka Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    All fair comments I think.

    I got very pissed off at Samsung over the SGS and it ruined the whole experience of having the phone for me, more than the phone itself did.

    I think I'll see what HTC come up first but the SGS II possibly being available so soon is quite compelling.
     
  13. NZtechfreak

    NZtechfreak Android Expert

    I'm also awaiting HTCs announcements. The Desire HD2 with the rumoured qHD screen is certainly tempting, however there were too many obvious errors in the leaked spec sheet for me to take it seriously until HTC officially announces it.
     
  14. karnka

    karnka Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    Yes, a qHD screen is very tempting. A resolution bump is the one thing missing from the SGS II specs in my opinion...

    We shall see.
     
  15. drpepper123

    drpepper123 Newbie

    i might be wrong, but i read somewhere about qHD. natively 800x480 interpolated to qHD. Same thing with galaxy s superamoled screen 653x392 interpolated to 800x480. galaxy s2 superamoled plus screen is 800x480 natively.
     
  16. karnka

    karnka Android Expert
    Thread Starter

    Pretty sure the screen on the Atrix is native.... Will have to see about HTC

    Actually... scratch that, the aspect ratio is wrong there.. it's either native or interpolated from a different res.
     
  17. Kelmar

    Kelmar Done by choice

    I didn't know that the forum had a dedicated spell checking staff?


    Oh, that's right... it doesn't!


    Useless posts have been deleted.... If I see anymore, expect infractions to be issued.
     
  18. jroc

    jroc Android Expert

    I read they went with a different Wifi and GPS chip for the Nexus S, so hopefully GPS wont be an issue.

    Updates....all I can say is if the bootloader is unlocked...learn to root and do the custom ROM thing..or if it works fine be happy with what it has.

    I know its a fine line between 'if its working with what it has why complain vs. updates bring new features you may want n like, so I want the update.'...I dont know what to tell you on updates...

    I am liking Samsung more this year for them getting rid of the Pentile Matrix on the Super Amoled Plus screens.
     
  19. Not that I wouldn't mind a qHD display on the S2, but the first qHD display released hasn't exactly been smooth. Could be just this one review though. The Droid X screen doesn't even look that good.

    "The 4-inch display on the ATRIX packs a whopping 960 x 540 pixels into what Motorola is calling a qHD display. While the resolution is quite high, the display to us still looked pretty pixelated. It
     
  20. mrphil101

    mrphil101 Newbie

    definately some lessons 2 be learned. Not there yet I don't think. Manufacturers have it tough trying to keep up. OS's and hardware are moving forward in leaps ands bounds. New features for cpu's, gpu's and chipsets, OS's incorporating these technologies, and then carriers wanting their own little tweaks for features of hardware disabled or crippled along with a bunch of carrier specific bloatware.
    At what point do they stop upgrading a specific model? a year, two years or never? Should their responsibility change depending on whether the bootloader is locked down or not. Maybe limit the number of updates promised. (don't promise then not do it) Manufaturers for the most part design a phone for a particular version of software, Significant changes to that version could be a major recode effort. Big bucks and valuable resourse that need to be focused on the newer, bigger, better, faster and prettier that we crave.
    Samsung made a major blunder with the updates, but the galaxy is still a phone to be contended with even now. The S2 may be to sweet to pass on unless something else with comparable specs is anounced soon.
    had a captivate but gave it back to att cause that's when they tried to sell that 2 gb limit crap. att inhales greatly. Plan expired in Jan and I am dying to get a new phone. I got my unlimited plan back, but they still throttle it so bad at 2 gbs, that it is almost unusable. S2 on tmobile would work 4 me!
     
  21. dyezak

    dyezak Well-Known Member

    The current mobile phone revolution is mimic-ing the PC revolution that happened from 1995 to 2005. Every year we were doubleing processing power, getting a new OS every year, (win95, 98, 98sp1, 98sp2, ME, 2000, xp, xpsp1, xpsp2).

    I remember buying my first 1ghz processor, installing 98sp2 on the machine and keeping it for about 6mo before overclocking it to 1.2ghz, upgrading to xp and (gasp) 1gb of RAM! I bought that computer from components in 2001, built it myself, and still layed out $3000.

    Now here we are 10y later, and getting phones that beat the specs of that computer, for 1/5 the price, and we are complaining. Complain about the price, complain about this little thing being flaky, no OS updates in 6mo, the scroll is laggy, etc etc.

    Wow...
     
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