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General Honeycomb: What went wrong - CNET article

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    Simply put, Honeycomb was the first os version for the tablet and it sucks. ICS will put Honeycomb to shame. Can't wait to see ICS on the Prime :)
     
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    I can't wait either! Only a few more days, right?

    I'm really hoping that ICS addresses some of my little whiney issues with the tablet.
     
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    I currently have ICS on my Nexus,so maybe I can check to see if it addresses some of uour concerns? What are they?
     
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    That article, and the many comments from the i-bots, illustrates once again that the ipad is designed and built for mindless consumption of media, not thoughtful creation. They all mention the "complexity" of Android, and how it disappoints them, because they don't want to have to think about what they're doing. QED!
     
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    I understand what they're saying, but to write that Google needs to dig deeper and find something more unique its laughable IMHO compared to the giant iPod touch that it's the iPad. Don't get me wrong, I really like the iPad and love how easy to use Apple products are, but if I wanted a kindle or iPad I would have bought one. I love the learning curve of android and have no problem with honeycomb, but I can't wait to see how awesome ICS is and hope it blows people away. However, there are going to be many who are going to hate it and say it isn't quite enough.
     
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    You'll never be able to please everyone, so I take the hate with a grain of salt. I'm loving my Prime as is and if ICS is as cool on it as it is on my Nexus, I'll be thrilled. And I'm no fanboy, I have 4 iPads in my classroom for my students, so I've turned it inside and outside and still love my Android devices way better.
     
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    All you have to do is look at the difference between the versions of android. When i look back at my htc hero on 1.5 (cupcake i think) to what i have now on my phone 2.3.4 and tab 3.2.1 I know ics will be a massive step forward. There are also many ways to get media onto a tab. Amazon player, app market, windows explorer. Add to that the ability to expand memory and battery life via the keybord dock and i am sure android will take off. The I pad is good if you do not want the ease and choice. Its funny that the author states android is not as intuitive as ios. I used my wifes iphone 4gs to play an album. Neither my wife or I could work out how to turn shuffle off. We had to google it!
     
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    I'm with you.
     
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    I have a Froyo based phone, I love it. This is my first tablet and my first exposure to Honeycomb and I think its great. My hope is ICS is better. We'll see soon.
     
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    I think my biggest issue with Honeycomb is the lack of native apps available. I actually prefer not to use apps and just use a browser, but then I run into my second biggest issue - the choppy browser experience.

    I've tried all of the browsers available in the Market, and IMO none even come close to iOS. I'm really hoping ICS improves browsing. Otherwise I think I'm going to be kicking myself for not waiting for the iPad 3.

    PS. I have a Galaxy Nexus and love it. That's why I'm so desperate to love my TP.
     
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    bahahaha please tell me someone else gets that joke lol
     
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    I gave my wife my opacity when I got my prime. Haven't regretted it so far
     
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    I truly believe this will be addressed with ICS. The fact that you have experience with ICS from the GN should also be helpful to you! Just a few more days and the ICS update starts...

    I found CNET's article laughable, btw.
     
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    What was so funny?
     
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    I didn't say it was funny, I said I found it laughable. There is a difference. Why? It reads like an iPhan's write up. CNET is well known for this. I'm with BDBMike.
     
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    I really hate articles like this about Android's "learning curve". It pisses me off. The first question I get from people when they try my Android tablet is "Where are my apps?". This is of course confusing because they're not all on the home screen like on iOS. So I show them the "All Apps" button on the top right and BAM! They've learned it. Learning curve? It's not THAT tough.

    One thing Android could do is make the clock in the bottom right corner look more like an actual button. As a Windows user, I am accustomed to clicking on a "Taskbar" of some sort to get more functionality. For me it's a no brainer. For others, not so much. But again, teach someone that touching the clock brings up their notifications and settings is all it takes. Learning curve yes, hard one no.

    The biggest drawback is that while the learning curve is very short and not that tough, it is beyond the grasp of most people while standing in a store trying different devices; which is probably why so many people default to the iPad when making "on-the-spot" purchases. Articles like this have their points, but they make the learning curve out to be some daunting mountain that novices need to climb.
     
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    Incase your new to Donald Bell's articles, hes a MEGA apple fan boy, and he absolutely hates android. Go look at any of his articles, the topics he picks for every article are something along the lines of "why android tablets failed" or "why apple is the best."

    So I purposely read Donald's articles just to see how wacky he can get each week.

    Personally, I don't get anyone who complains about Honeycomb.

    My Brother has an iPad 2. Before I had used it my plan was to get an iPad 3 when it was released, but after using it i was left with a big WTF is the purpose of this device. I own a touch, and i absolutely love the touch, its bulletproof and a rock solid device, but its extremely limited, which isnt a big deal on a 3.5 inch screen.

    I bought a tablet because I wanted an experience similar to a PC, and the iPad is definitly NOT that, its absolutely useless IMHO, if you want an iPad, save the money and get the iTouch, its identical.

    I bought the prime because it is actually useable. Like a computer. IOS on a device bigger than an iPhone is an epic fail IMHO.

    If i was getting a smartphone it would be iPhone handsdown, its rock solid.

    Tablet = Android/windows 8 when that comes out.

    This was my first experience with android and I don't understand why people complain about honeycomb? its amazing IMO, i love the widgets, being able to connect to my network computers, use files, remote desktop. I love everything about honeycomb, and don't even care about ICS, I'd take honeycomb over ios 5, any day.

    All I hear is android lacks apps omg! Guess what, I have 121 applications on my itouch. Everyone I talk to with an idevice always goes OMG! when i say that, I have yet to talk to a person with more apps that me, and guess how many times I use them? Never... I downloaded them when they came out and were cool, but now i dont use them. Honestly, I find it really hard to believe anyone actually has more apps than 120, and actually uses them?

    So 100% of the people I talk to with an idevice have less apps than I do, how is number of apps an excuse anymor? do you plan to use all the hundreds of thousands?

    The pure useability of android, beats ios, with its apps.

    With a choice between using android and 0 apps vs ios with unlimited apps. I would take android and 0 apps for a tablet any day!

    I go play with my brothers and go oh wow this is so smooth! the web browser is faster! omg! That makes this device so much better! haha not, I'd rather mega super duper lag on android than buttery ios.

    BTW the app excuse isnt gonna last much longer, so id use it much more if i were an apple fanboy. Android is growing at a much faster rate than ios, and the apps are going to pass ios, very soon.

    Apple is going to do exactly the same thing they did with personal computers. They pigeon holed themselves back then by only letting their OS run on their own hardware. Guess what, that isnt how capitalism works, or competition, you can't make your own chips and your own HDD's. Let each company specialize, and make the best parts they can, then buy them (PC's) Windows runs on all types of computers = Win = Massive marketshare = it actually matters.

    ios runs on only apple devices vs android runs on any hardware that a company wants = all devices = bound to have the most market share = more people = more developers developing because they want more money from more users

    Common sense people, Why develop for a system less people use? Look at the rate androids growing. its a matter of time before android has more apps, more developers, and ios is a tiny little joke, similar to what OS X became.



    Sorry for the rant guys :)
     
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    Firstly, i agree with most everything that you said. Im an android guy all the way.

    But i do disagree with your take on the app situation. I work for a mobile development company, one of the largest actually. I can tell you first hand that the demand is only just now starting to pick up for Android. And i am not lying or exaggerating, I have not once heard from any client any desire or consideration for an Android Tablet. Period. Not 1.

    Im not saying i am the God of mobile development, but I have my hands in it, its my job to speak to customers about their requirements, desires, etc. iOS is almost always #1 unless it is an app thats just not possible on iOS but is possible on Android (this happens a lot), but never once has "Android Tablet" been mentioned.

    IMO, the demand is just not there yet.
     
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    And for the people who think ICS will cure everything, you will be in for a big let down. I am sure ICS will help but do not think it will be the end all for all of your woes. I have been with Android since 1.5 and we go through this every time the Android OS is about to reinvent itself. If you think it will fix everything, it won't and you will be very disappointed. Even by saying this, after ICS launches you will hear a lot of people bitching on here because it didn't fix everything. Anyway, just sayin'!!!!

    Keep your expectations in check. Plan for the worst...hope for the best.
     
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    my first experience with android was eclair - 2.1. right after we got our samsung epics, froyo was released - and this was suppoused to be awesome. well the native e-mail app never worked for me after that. then gingerbread came out (course us epic people didn't see that for a long time) and everyone said how great it was and awesome it is - blah blah blah. i finally got it. only thing noticed is that my e-mail does work now, voice mail icon changed and my led notification sometimes work and sometimes doesn't (for anything, voice mail, charging, e-mail, text). i know not to expect something out of this world different.

    i know ics is supposed to be grand - and i expect it to be an improvement - but i also know that a lot of the effort is back of house/under the hood things that normal users will not see.
     
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    Golfnut, a lot of your frustration comes from samsung......I am not a big fan of their phones.... and their support.
     
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    i've learned that, but eclair to froyo and froyo to gingerbread was not the "big" change i was expecting. it wasn't like windows 3.1 to windows 95 or 98 to xp or xp to windows 7 (yes, i did skip 2000 and vista - as did many others)
     

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