1. Check out our app, Forums for Android! Download and leave feedback here!

General How is this phone not rooted yet?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by tluv00, Jun 7, 2010.

  1. tluv00

    tluv00 Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    113

    Feb 8, 2010
    559
    249
    113
    On the edge
    Seriously. How is this device not rooted? Evo was rooted before it launched, the Dell Streak is rooted too. WTF is the deal with this?
     

    Advertisement

  2. jakeh0

    jakeh0 Well-Known Member
    43

    May 4, 2010
    165
    42
    43
    im wondering the same thing man
     
  3. fortesquieu

    fortesquieu Well-Known Member
    143

    Apr 27, 2010
    1,079
    144
    143
    The security is too tight. =P
     
  4. mattbbx

    mattbbx Active Member
    16

    May 19, 2010
    28
    4
    16
    Paladin mode activate!


    Be patient. Root is being worked on. Most of the roots had some insider help, the incredible is all on its own for the time being.

    Also nobody owes you root. You aren't paying for it. I hate to sound all nerdrage but thats the general feeling I had from your post. Forgive me if I am wrong. It just seems that the majority feels its their right.
     
    Reddog80p, allen2oo3 and TPR300C like this.
  5. Le0_Br4zUc4

    Le0_Br4zUc4 Well-Known Member
    36

    I wonder the same thing, it just taking way too long for the inc to get rooted
     
  6. tluv00

    tluv00 Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    113

    Feb 8, 2010
    559
    249
    113
    On the edge
    I understand no one "owes me root" but you would think that with the hype around this device and the fact that the EVO and Streak were rooted prior to being released there would be something out there. I wonder why no "inside help" with this device?
     
  7. mattbbx

    mattbbx Active Member
    16

    May 19, 2010
    28
    4
    16
    That I do agree with. It is very strange that these other devices had insiders, but this one remains on its own. Sorry for mis-judging your post.
     
  8. androy

    androy Well-Known Member
    43

    Apr 20, 2010
    308
    46
    43
    Android addict
    in my brain
    It's a conspiracy!
     
  9. tluv00

    tluv00 Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    113

    Feb 8, 2010
    559
    249
    113
    On the edge
    No worries. It's text so it's all how the reader perceives it. I probably could have been overly friendly in the content but that's not me :cool:
     
    mattbbx likes this.
  10. slackfumasta

    slackfumasta Well-Known Member
    43

    Jun 5, 2010
    100
    31
    43
    I was wondering this myself, especially with the EVO being rooted right away. They have very similar OSes, right? I mean I know it's all Android, but the Inc and the EVO are very similar.
     
  11. Crashumbc

    Crashumbc Well-Known Member
    223

    Apr 7, 2010
    1,810
    550
    223
    IT god
    B'more

    My understanding is the EVO has/had a fairly large security hole/bug in its rom which allowed for the quick root.

    I also understand that a OTA, fixed the hole. I haven't heard of anyone that has rooted a phone that has received the OTA.

    update: I checked the EVO forums,the update did indeed fixed the ability to root the phone. So if you buy one don't let it update if you want to root.
     
  12. tluv00

    tluv00 Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    113

    Feb 8, 2010
    559
    249
    113
    On the edge
    IMO the Evo is a higher priority device for HTC hence the "inside support" mentioned earlier. I know it's up to the carrier to hype their phones but it seems that Sprint really beat out the Inc by talking about it earlier and then HTC really backed them by having it at trade shows before there was even a mentioned of the Incredible (a real mention not just speculation). Maybe I am wrong but I just feel the Incredible is being seen as the little brother to the EVO since it's smaller and has less hype.
     
  13. Diabl0

    Diabl0 Well-Known Member
    53

    May 27, 2010
    185
    80
    53
    South Central, PA

    I'm fairly certain even with the OTA update the Evo can still be rooted. I have seen that it just takes more effort and you have to do it some other way.


    The Evo was released to developers' at some Google event before it was released to the public so they had tons of time to play with it.


    http://forum.androidcentral.com/droid-incredible/15792-why-evo-rooted-already-not-dinc.html
     
  14. The Evo was given away for free at Google I/O to all attendees; and considering you have some of the most talented devs all packed in one room with the device, well, you do the math. You can't compare Evo root access to ours because the Incredible wasn't handed out to devs free of charge. Even the guy that "supposedly" is making very good progress on root had to have one given to him by another person because he couldn't afford one at the time. The Eris was just as difficult to root so this comes as no surprise that the Incredible is taking so long. I feel that, unless you are working on root yourself, that you need to just chill out, be patient, and let people do their thing. Most devs have real full time jobs and typically do these things as hobbies.
     
    Reddog80p likes this.
  15. ChiTownJim

    ChiTownJim Well-Known Member
    163

    Jan 9, 2010
    2,380
    286
    163
    Restaurant Owner and Chef
    Denver
    I wouldn't worry about the phone getting rooted, every Android phone has been rooted. The Incredible will be rooted as well, until then don't install leaked updates (Big Root problem the Eris had as soon as people downloaded the leak the original was rooted and all the leakers were SOL including this guy lol) and enjoy your Incredibly Fantastic phone
     
    Reddog80p and iowabowtech like this.
  16. civicsisedan

    civicsisedan Well-Known Member
    93

    Apr 26, 2010
    840
    178
    93
    Army
    Maryland
    It's because I bought the phone.

    And I have bad luck. The phone will never be rooted!
     
  17. tluv00

    tluv00 Well-Known Member
    Thread Starter
    113

    Feb 8, 2010
    559
    249
    113
    On the edge
    So my co-worker who rooted his Hero came in today with his rooted EVO. Something about free Wireless tethering that can get a man's blood boiling :)
     
  18. Reaver

    Reaver Well-Known Member
    53

    Apr 9, 2010
    177
    65
    53
    Sr. Systems Analyst
    Pennsylvania
    Don't ask about root, it's being worked on. Just subscribe to the Root Notification thread. Then you will be notified when root is obtained. I'm sure the devs who are working on this are just so thrilled that you are wondering why they didn't root it yet.
     
    Reddog80p likes this.
  19. Steve03Merc

    Steve03Merc Well-Known Member
    16

    Mar 4, 2010
    64
    2
    16
    If the developers are such total crybabies about someone asking whether or not the phone is rooted, then screw it, I don't even want it.
     
  20. Reaver

    Reaver Well-Known Member
    53

    Apr 9, 2010
    177
    65
    53
    Sr. Systems Analyst
    Pennsylvania
    I wasn't implying that the devs are crybabies. This type of thread serves no purpose. The Root Notification thread was created so everyone would know when root was achieved.
     
  21. Crashumbc

    Crashumbc Well-Known Member
    223

    Apr 7, 2010
    1,810
    550
    223
    IT god
    B'more
  22. acipollo

    acipollo Well-Known Member
    36

    Oct 13, 2009
    162
    6
    36
    New York
    I have an EVO also, and I rooted mine last night.
     
  23. DevHead

    DevHead Well-Known Member
    38

    Mar 27, 2010
    122
    19
    38
    Because none of us are helping.
     
  24. MisterMixelpix

    MisterMixelpix Well-Known Member
    113

    May 4, 2010
    774
    153
    113
    Youth Counselor
    PA
    Is there anywhere that says from a TECHNICAL perspective what's preventing root from happening versus the EVO or other devices?

    I'm not impatient in the slightest, nor am I wanting to pressure the people working on it. I'm just curious because it IS such an anomaly.
     
  25. Reaver

    Reaver Well-Known Member
    53

    Apr 9, 2010
    177
    65
    53
    Sr. Systems Analyst
    Pennsylvania
    This is from a thread on XDA. It highlights what has been done and what will not work. link to the thread ----> Possible ways to Root Droid Incredible - xda-developers

    Hopefully this answers some of you questions. I would love to know what is going on but, ever since the fiasco that took place over Memorial Day weekend, I don't think anyone wants to post about root until root is achieved. It's a shame that a few morons had to ruin it for the rest.

    _XDATHREAD______________________________________________________________________________

    Possible ways to Root Droid Incredible Basically this is for organization and for people to understand and help contribute to our root attempts

    The Thread should discuss the ideas to gain root and why they won't work or what the status is. Also if you have a question of will this help us gain root, then post it or PM me and we can discuss it on IRC or in here and then come to a conclusion if it will help or not.

    In no way am I a dev or understand how all this works completely but I would like to help and if this is a way I can, great and trying out new things.

    Ideas

    1) Newer Kernel Exploits
    Status: ???

    2) Zip File Fuzzing (Bootloader overflow)
    Status: ???

    3) Root Level things running
    Status: ???

    4) Mount internal storage and modify OS
    Status: ???

    5) Trick from the Desire
    Status: We need a signed ROM from HTC to get that to work.

    6) Let's put an image on the SD and see if it will boot that
    Status: No. It doesn't work

    7) Trick from the Evo
    Status: No. The Evo depends on some specific stuff that Incredible doesn't have.

    8) Fastboot oem unlock
    Status: Everyone and their mom tried, doesn't work

    9) Flash a new image
    Status: No, you and what root?

    10)Shoryuken ptrace() exploit.
    Status: No. It's been patched.
    ______________________________________________________________________________
     
    MisterMixelpix likes this.

Share This Page

Loading...