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  1. kumaranil13k

    kumaranil13k Member
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    Question How to cure Battery draining and lagging problem

    I have lyf water 7 ls-5504 mobile it's been rooted through super user to use link2sd and link apps. But before rooting it's have huge proble of draining battery it's battery drains 25% within if screen off to 10-15min from 100% to 75% very fast. One day it got battery calibration problem to it showed 0% and still it was working... Then I went to sevice center and they formatted and installed th android 5.11 stock rom again they electrically tested said battery is okay but software problem or may be software draining it.

    As I googled and founded that some softwares setting consumes battery and to find them and kill or.force.stop.them and to cha he settings... Which switch off did ie. Developer option> windows animation scale / transaction animation scale/ animator duration scale

    developer option drawing option

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    This option and GPU rendering I turned off and Bluetooth WiFi off and background process limit to 2 in setting developer options which reduced the battery draing in off screen but still while using its
    draining to fast in compared to same company other model with same 3000mh battery.

    So after rooting I installed greenify and accu battery to solve the battery charging or draining problem still it's same.

    I tried to hybernate through greenify app one or two apps which are silently memory resident but I can't restrict system (google.play services) so I screenshot the developer option process stats to refer you apps running in memory


    Devloper option process stats screenshot
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    Following is screenshot of battery apps usage of android 5.1.1 native

    settings battery statistics screenshot
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    From below screenshots of accubattery app photo I have given to give reference how much mh or percentage battery is consumed in charging and discharging . If any expert can find the reson. Or app of its draining battery fastly and second phone hangs lags and respond to late and stuck in browsing many times and many time I have to close all running apps and restart them again. Is it due to rooting or.permissoon apps or link2sd apps or due to accubattery or greenify. As link2sd accubattery or greenify is no where in process stats ... I had not linked or moved system apps or random used apps to external sd card..

    Now if u can help or advice.me how to redicate or troubleshoot or find the app which is draining the battery or hanging or lagging . The phone....any more reports or details required for your refrence I can send screenshot ...any opinion advice to solve help will be welcomed



    Following is accubattery aps stats infor.of battery discharges and charging stats

    accubattery apps

    charging stats screenshot

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    battery usage stats screenshot
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    discharging usage screenshot
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    discharge speed apps wise usage
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    discharge speed screenshot
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    apps charge status

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    From above photo of accu battery apps monitoring I have given to give reference how much mh or percentage battery is consumed in charging and discharging . If any expert can find the reson. Or app of its draining battery fastly and second phone hangs lags and respond to late and stuck in browsing many times and many time I have to close all running apps and restart them again. Is it due to rooting or.permissoon apps or link2sd apps or due to accubattery or greenify. As link2sd accubattery or greenify is no where in process stats ... I had not linked or moved system apps or random used apps to external sd card..

    Now if u can help or advice.me how to redicate or troubleshoot or find the app which is draining the battery or hanging or lagging . The phone....any more reports or details required for your refrence I can send screenshot ...any opinion advice to solve help will be welcomed
     



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  2. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

    Your device is very old.
    Any battery you get for it is very likely as old or close to it.

    Your device is so old that it is much less efficient than newer devices.

    You are using Chrome and Google Play Services, which are both battery hogs a d resource draining junk apps that run in the background constantly.

    A device that old should be able to disable all Google apps and have room for suitable replacements that are more efficient.
     
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  3. kumaranil13k

    kumaranil13k Member
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    @puppykickr bro thanks a lotz for replying and sharing your precious time knowledge opinion advice and helping to obliged grateful for ur kind help.

    @puppykickr bro yes mobiles are.two old and want to sustain them as standby till they can work. Yes I have rooted the phone and link2sd app to I can disable uninstall disable freeze system apps to...chrome I can Disable and can use any other browser like opera firefox or any fast which u can recommend...but google play store alternative is apkpure I am using or fdroid...

    what about Google Play service as it's huge app just to update apps...but I ce I celaned it's data and cache in android 5.11 lolipop it's created huge problem of mobile lagging hanging in old update...can all other apps work or disable or uninstall or freeze google play services..

    Which GOOGLE or system apps I should not disable ...like UI or launcher 3.. which apps is neccesity for android phone which should not be disabled ....please suggest advice
     
  4. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

    Personally, especially on an Android 5, I would disable every single Google app of every kind.

    You do not need Google Play Services to update apps.
    ApkPure will be ok, as long as you have the app, and an even better choice is Uptodown.

    F-Droid is excellent as well.
    With those three, you will not miss Google at all.

    Also, I would replace all stock utility apps with Simple Mobile Tools.

    All social media should be accessed with a browser, not individual apps.

    Greenify is excellent, especially if you have the paid version that allows control of system apps.
    It is even more capable on a rooted device.

    Here are links to apps that I would use on any device, not just the ones in question.

    Always get apps from F-Droid if you can.
    I use F-Droid first, then Uptodown, and then ApkPure.

    https://f-droid.org/en/packages/acr.browser.lightning/

    https://f-droid.org/en/packages/theredspy15.ltecleanerfoss/

    https://f-droid.org/en/packages/eu.faircode.netguard/

    https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

    https://noroot-firewall.en.uptodown.com/android

    https://nova-launcher.en.uptodown.com/android

    https://appcontrol.neocities.org/index_en.html

    https://app.degoo.com/files/11492908527

    http://keuwl.com/apps.html

    https://github.com/nitroshare/nitroshare-desktop

    https://www.simplemobiletools.com/
     
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  5. kumaranil13k

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    @puppykickr bro thanx , I tried to disable or unistalled Google apps bloatwares google play store and google play services when I disabled google.play services it's gave error of adminstrative manager and asked to uninstall lock screen app to disable pattern lock or password lock and google find device app I unistalled and disabled them...but after that google Play service it gave notification that without google play services following apps will not work (can u suggest me alternative apps mainly for gmail Youtube maps)
    1. gmail
    2. Youtube
    3. Google maps
    4. Google drive
    5. Google search
    6. Google lens
    7. Google photos
    8. Google update

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    After disabling google play services the main android 5.1.1 soft rebooted and crashed and. After restart its optimized repaired installed apps every time rebboted itself took 10-15 min


    After disabling google chrome play sevices the lagging and speed problem solved. And mobile got speedy but I am worrried that the main gps bluetooth dailer contact meesage video or photo or youtube gmail ....calling messages will not work can any alternative make them work or android 5.1.1 start malfunction without them ..don't know

    Which system apps u suggest should not be disabled or freezed or unistalled so that android should not crash and start malfunctioning without it basic functions of email messages calling should work.
     
  6. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

  7. kumaranil13k

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    @puppykickr bro after disabling google services and all apps all working fine but the dialer contacts and sms messaging apps crashingand notable to call or recive send messages sms.. as contatct and others in android is backup in google drove automatically and now voogle drive and all google apps is disabled so the cotacts and sms are able to sync from online backup any alternative apps or way to solve it

    Secondly i disabled apps google play services but in developer option background process running its still showing services running of google play servives (persistent) and some.of more disbled google apps how to reMove them i tried to run sd maid and lte cleaner but nothing happened still many google servives apps running in background process

    Screenshot of List of apps disabled
    https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Screenshot_2021-11-03-22-48-48.png


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    Screenshot of process background runng apps

    https://www.linkpicture.com/q/Screenshot_2021-11-03-22-44-04.png
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    #7 kumaranil13k, Nov 3, 2021
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2021
  8. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    FYI there's many third-party apps and games that require the Google Play Services framwork to be present in memory, i.e. persistant, otherwise they can't function properly. You disable or remove this framework, and those apps will very likely error or crash. It's pretty much essential for many apps and games.

    Some China version phones and tablets don't have the Play Services framework in them, and that does cause show-stopping problems for apps and games that use it, And they'll show error messages along the lines of "This app can't run because the required service is missing from your device.", and AF has had several posts about this, with apps and games that won't run on those devices.
     
    #8 mikedt, Nov 4, 2021
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  9. kumaranil13k

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    @mikedt bro yes ur right that what i was saying to puppykickr that Google play services disabled disabled many apps dependent on it....As he suggested to disable all Google apps to...Actually Google play service taking huge space of data cache 350mb to 600mband keep on multiplying and it to use drain ram and battery to much... So I felt it's food advice to disable Google app as mybold Ltd water 7 Android 5.1 lollipop mobile is draining battery to fast and handling lagging slowing down crashing so I thought it's better to use alternative apps then Google apps ...But the calling failed and SMS messaging apps to not working after disabling googl play devices and Google drive which is co Cern as we will not able to call or SMS without them.

    @mikedt bro there must be some third party apps for caller dialer and SMS messaging which don't require Google play services framework ....Can u suggest any dialer contacts and SMS Messaging app for Android 5.1 which I can. Install and give a try...And can work as alternative for Google
     
  10. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

    https://www.simplemobiletools.com/

    Use the F-Droid links for the above apps.
    These are what I use instead of the built in system apps, because the built in apps won't function without Google.

    None will sync with Google, so they must be set up manually.

    As for the Google Services that are still running, there must be Google Services Framework still in there somewhere or another Google app that is designed to keep or search for Google Play Services- to keep it active.

    This is exactly how Google uses up your battery.
    Not only is it running, but there are multiple other apps that are checking and making sure that it is running.

    It is an insidious circle.

    My guess is that you will need to remove the Google Account from the device entirely.

    Then go into:

    Settings
    Security
    Device Administrators

    and turn off anything Google related (Find My Phone, etc.)

    Come to think of it, try revoking the Device Administer permissions of anything Google related before removing the account.

    These actions combined should stop any residual aggrevation from Google crap on the device.

    Google Drive, G-Mail, and anything else Google related must be accessed with a browser, because there is no longer a constant link to Google via a Google account on the device.
     
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  11. kumaranil13k

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    @puppykickr bro thanx. A lot for ur advice the site of simple.tools ..the dailer app of then same is not compatible with my device android 5.1 lollipop may be another dialer u can suggest

    @puppykickr bro I had disbaled from system administration find my phone screen lock and all google apps like gmail YouTube google search .... And all google.apps bloatwares....but still the google play services( persistent) and many others apps still running in process with less percentage in background any way to remove them.or framework...of google...as they are still consuming ram memory battery and space...stilly battery is draining fast even after disabling google and social networking apps any suggestion
     
  12. puppykickr

    puppykickr Android Expert

    Usually on a device that old, you can disable Google Services Framework.

    Also, a device that old may just have a bad battery.
     
  13. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    The last Android 5.1 device I had was five years ago, an Oppo Find7. So have no real ideas about it these days. Except to say that devs very likely no longer support it, and it's probably only going to run older versions of apps, that's it.
     
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  14. kumaranil13k

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    @puppykickr @mikedt bro thank do u know any old version or old app for 3rd party dialer which can work with Android 5.1
     
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