Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by KingDong, Mar 30, 2011.
that is how HTC are making it sound although it's possibly untrue
Does anyone know when will this update be released for Vodafone AUSTRALIA??
I got my update yesterday, so I guess it's available for unbranded phones in Norway.
this is getting utterly disgusting...rubbish from htc, and i thought nokia was bad...unbranded phone on t-mo uk, no sign yet of anything...
I had a little think about this whole update thing from a business perspective, and I hate to say it but what HTC are doing makes commercial sense to them.
Regarding the branded/unbranded first debate, it makes perfect sense for the updates to be released thru the operators first.
They buy the majority of handsets from HTC, and HTC have to serve them better than anyone else to protect that revenue stream: both for the DHD and other handsets.
As far as I can tell, it's infuriating for us unbranded folks, but I think the people that buy off the shelf unbranded units make up a very small percentage of total ownership.
Same goes for how far HTC will update the DHD. They'll only keep pushing updates if major carriers want them, the phone is current, etc etc. If there's no business justification (ie: money rolling in), then there's no point in continuing to update a handset.
I'm assuming the Nexus models are special because of agreements with Google...they are supposed to be the flagship models, after all.
This is only one opinion and I guess people will flame me for it....I'm also not happy myself, but HTC are a business. Just remember that.
They also run vanilla android. It's adding HTC Sense that takes them so long.
I wanted to clear up the IMEI queries I had so I contacted HTC again this morning -
It's just a random thing, not done by IMEI or serial by all accounts. I still think HTC gave me the last update, not Orange, but meh.
I'm not actually that fussed when I get the update, I just don't want to end up with branded firmware.
With my Desire HD, I've always had WiFi and mobile network permanently switched on. Worked fine for me
But with Gingerbread, if WiFi signal is weak, then my Desire HD changes automaticly to mobile network.
I would rather have the 2.2 behavior. But maybe with the next update ....
quite certain there would be no "next update"
El Presidente, I have an unbranded phone from Vodafone, and I'm sure mine is fully unbranded (same ROM as you). I'm still not seeing an update, so maybe there's a difference between truly unbranded phones (SIM-free) and those sold by a network carrier with contract?
I still think I'm getting my updates from HTC also.
I 100% agree with you, also people don't buy a handset direct from HTC you get it from a reseller, so HTC are right to deal with the bigger customers first imho
Thanks, did you get yours from Vodafone or was it bought SIM free and you're using a Vodafone SIM?
There is a difference phones brought on a contract have updates from there network and NOT HTC (even though the HTC update server sends them out) sim free handsets get direct updates from HTC. So even if you have a 'no bloatware' version from your network ( I have that from Orange ) you still need to wait for the network to push the update back to HTC with there network tweeks on it,to send it out.
On 3UK with an unlocked and unbranded phone (albeit provided by them in their very early stock). Previously received OTA update with no issues, but no update as yet.
Called 3 customer services and they had no info whatsoever. The hardest thing was getting them to understand what I wanted to know so I wasn't hopeful tbh ...
Had a quick web chat with HTC and was told that the rollout is serial based, which seems to contradict what El Pres was told.
Hmmm seems to me that no 1 actually knows whats going on. Looks like everyone is passing the buck. What i mean by passing the buck is that we're all told something thats not actually solid concrete information. Kinda like the expression of Broken telephone, Grapevine and other rumor games played. It's like your back in school again lol
I bought mine from Carphone Warehouse (online) on a Vodafone contract on the day the DHD was released. It arrived without any of the Vodafone branding and received regular updates for the first few weeks.
If what WigglesGRN said is right, I have to wait for VF to release it. However, that doesn't make sense if the VF update includes the operator bloatware, which I've never received.
eh? is this a problem with gingerbread?
A small number of people appear to have this problem, although only a small number of people actually appear to have the update.
Agreed. However, if branded Vodafone handsets have already got it too, that wouldn't really make sense either.
I don't think HTC have a plan TBH....
I think the other problem with the mis-information (make that missing information?) is that asking after the Gingerbread update is a pretty niche field of expertise for most tech support personnel.
Even if the carriers had a definite plan, it's probably something that's pretty need-to-know within the core of the provisioning side of the business, so their break/fix jockeys won't have the details.
Same goes for contacting HTC - I think they do have a plan for the OTA upgrade, but probably don't have a plan for publicising the plan to their frontline techies, and therefore the general public...if that makes sense.
I have to say again that I'm super excited and have lost count of the number of times I've checked my handset....but I think we're just going to have to sit it out
How's your washing machine and lawnmower Uri??!!
I, too, am Vodafone UNbranded, and still wait in eager anticipation of Gingerbread. Ho Hum
The day I heard it had been released, I contacted HTC who advised it would "be rolled out in serial number sequence, with an anticipated completion within 2 weeks". They also added that UNbranded would receive first (as is the norm) followed by "network branded" later on.
The "network branded" units receiving later has obviously now shown to be incorrect, as Voda BRANDED are currently receiving the update.
Oh well, just have to wait,
Pre-Installed 2.3 Nexus S anyone? lol
Thats how im feeling at the moment lol
Yep after this contact is up definitely a Nexus
Reading this topic has got me quite confused.
I bought a DHD from Phones4U in November on an Orange contract. Now when I bought the phone, the salesman advised he had no branded handsets left so would have to sell me a GSM model (which I class as unbranded). I was quite happy with this as usually the orange software branding is ugly.
When I spoke to Orange to sort out phone insurance, I was advised they cannot insure the phone (as it's a GSM model) and might not be able to provide support as it was not provided by them.
I'm on 1.72.405.3 at the moment and hope that I'll get the stock HTC update as the last thing I want is Orange colours and logos all over my phone.