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  1. sbbamafan

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    I have had an Epic for about 4 months and like it except for one thing. The bluetooth is totally eratic (doesn't work most of the time) with my Kenwood car audio unit. FWIW - my old Hero didn't work either until I rooted it - then it worked perfectly. I have to add a line for one of my kids so I decided I may get a Nexus adn give him my Epic. I have been comparing the 2 phones and now I am more confused. The main reasons I am interested in making the change is better bluetooth compatibility with newer OS and smaller size. As a benefit, I thought it was faster - until yesterday. The guy in the Sprint store said "no matter what you hear - the Epic is faster and more dependable than the Nexus". Thoughts?
     

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    yes my thought is that he's just trying to sell you an Epic. I have a Nexus S 4G and my wife has an Epic, to be honest I can't tell a difference in speed, but then I rarely use hers, it isn't slow and laggy by no means, can't think of I time when it ever did lag. I like the Nexus better though, she upgraded 3 months before me so I had plenty of time to test hers here and there before making my decision. I'm 100% happy with my choice and she's 100% happy with hers.

    As far was the blue tooth I can't answer and I've never used mine.
     
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    I came from an Epic......

    ...and I prefer my NS4G. The Sprint store rep is b's'ing you! The battery life is substantially better on the NS4G as well.
     
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    I came from an Epic as well. I loved the Epic, but I think the NS4G is better. I never used the bluetooth with my Epic, but I use it with my NS4G all the time. It works great on my Kenwood dvd player stereo and I use it with my turtle beach headphones when I'm playing games. I occasionally transfer files with the computer. Zero complaints on bluetooth.
     
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    I would recommend the nexus s 4g I just got it I played with the epic and never really enjoyed it as much as I am with my nexus. To me just a better phone all around I mean my nexus. Thats just my opinion though. Mike
     
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    The Nexus S 4G sounded like a good idea 2 weeks ago... afterall, I had had my Epic repaired & replaced through store insurance more than 5 times! one of the store techs offered me the option to trade my Epic in for the new Nexus S 4G.
    the NS4G is being offered with Gingerbread but at a cheaper price for a reason. Most of the Android phones today have custom versions of the Google Android OS, and they have more customizable options, and have options that make the phone easier and more pleasant to use. The NS4G is being offered at a lower price bc the phone can be shipped w the basic version of the current Google OS, without first having to be customized by the phone manufacturer, which costs money. The NS4G does come with Gingerbread, the most current version of the OS, but it is so stripped down to the really basic version of the Android Operating System, which at times makes u remember that you usually get what you pay for!
    The phone doesn't come with "any" of the Sprint Android applications, some of which you probably don't want, but some of which really kill the user experience and make you wish the phone was not so basic! You don't have the option of using Sprint Visual Voicemail at all. Instead you have to either opt for the third party VVM app, "Youmail" or the Google Voice Visual Voicemail app. There are some very irritating drawbacks to Sprint's collaborated version of the Google Voice VVM app. As it is, with the Nexus, at the present time, you can't type lobg text msgs... Each SMS msg you type is limited to 160 characters... So if u have a lot to say, sending your message will be time consuming and annoying!
    In addition, using Google Voice as your voicemail replacement isn't just "that..." It also makes texting even more frustrating! Your text msgs will show up in Google Voice (and markedly disorganized), and they will also show up in the messaging app. Each time you get a text you will get two notifications for the same one msg, which also can get confusing and annoying... There are ways to sort of work around this issue, but the problem still liners and is very annoying!
    Google claims the phone will be faster because it doesn't contain all the Sprint apps and Samsung apps that come with the Epic, however this simply isn't true. In my opinion, google is just trying to have a phone that is more officially branded with the Google name.
    The battery is definitely better on the Epic without a doubt, in my Opinion. Another very annoying feature is the adsense of an SD Card slot. So the phone only comes w a built in 16GB memory sd-like-non-removable card, meaning you can't expand the amount of storage memory on the phone, and if your phone breaks, you can't just remove an SD memory card and re-implant it into another device! Very annoying!
    The only thing I really like about the NS4G is the sleek/thin apparatus/design, due to absence of qwerty keyboard, and the nifty ringers! the most annoying issue is the limited short text msging problem, and absence of the ability to choose to use sprint's own visual
    voicemail. Google Voice, aside from its kinks and still existing flaws in functionality, can also
    be extremely tempermental in it's original setup and when attempting to integrate your Google Voice account and phone number with your Sprint account and phone number.
    Id go with the Samsung Galaxy S Epic OR, I'd ultimately splurge and just go for the new Samsung Galaxy S II Epic!
    I also own an HTC Evo, which I do really like, but the battery life is horrifically pathetic and the phone has been on the market for far too long. This is Brett, and if you have any Questions, feel free to contact me!
     
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    Wow...I know that everybody has a right to their opinion....but wow. It seems like you just threw the Nexus under the bus. The only thing I agree with you is the lack of a Sd Card Slot. Other than that...I don't agree with you at all.

    Far as the Nexus being cheaper, well that's because maybe the the new Nexus is about to released. The Nexus is stock Android/Gingerbread. In addition to receiving timely updates, this is what makes the Nexus a great phone. Just because the phone doesn't have HTC Sense or Sense Touchwiz. doesn't have anything to do with the price of the phone. Because the Nexus doesn't have those overlays is good, because both Sense and Touchwiz (except for the Galaxy S II devices) slow the phones down.

    Now voicemail and all the sprint apps are removed. The reason, well its a Google device with the Google/Stock Android experience. When I use my Nexus S 4G, I use Google Voice for voicemail. I don't receive all those text messages that you were talking about because I took the time to set it up correctly. Not saying you didn't but as far as receiving text messages, emails etc. from Google voice cvan all be edited within the setting if you go to Google Voice website on a pc.

    Now battery life...the Epic has better battery life than the NS4G? That's a joke...lol. Since this last update, my Nexus can go 10+ hours on one charge and yes I use my phone on a regular basis. And I'm not rooted, I'm all stock. Oh and did I mention the updates. The Epic is still officially on 2.2 froyo. No 2.3 Gingerbread for the Epic. Ha...it's never gonna officially get it either. And the Epic has known issues with the GPS whereas the Nexus S doesn't. My GPS locks quick'

    The Nexus is sleek and nice if you ask me. It fights comfortably in the hand and in my pocket. Ask somebody how the Epic feels in their pockets...lol

    To the OP, all in all...it's all up to you. But personally I would pass on the Epic. The best phones on Sprint right now in my opinion is the Epic 4G Touch (which I currently have), The Photon, And the Nexus S (Which have as well). I didn't list the Evo 3D because the last one I had, had reception issues. However, those issues may have been fixed by now, I'm not sure.
     
  8. sbbamafan

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    plmiller0905 -

    Based on what I have heard and read and the people I have spoken to - I think you are right about all you said. I see Bretticans as having sour grapes or just spending time to set things up right to begin with.

    I don't think I will miss the 'Sprint Applications' except maybe occasionally Sprint TV when camping. Is there another app that will do the same thing? I already use youmail. I am really trying to think what other 'Sprint Apps' there are or that I might miss. Where can I see a list of 'Sprint Apps'?

    All that being said, I intend to get the NS4G by the end of the week.
     
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    Since your a Sprint customer you can install SprintTV on the phone.

     
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    I just upgraded one of my lines to the Samsung Nexus S and really like it so far. Lol, spent the entire weekend trying to watch football and unlock the bootloader (which is the easiest I have ever done and this is my forth Android device), root, and mod it. My main line is an EVO 3D, and we also have an EVO 4G and an Optimus S.

    I actually enjoy having a clean slate to work with and if you do take the time to set up Google Voice correctly you won't have any issues. So far, I have had no issues with this phone at all. One thing that has been mentioned and made me feel comfortable going with this phone is the fact that it is a Google phone and receives regular updates. As other Samsung owners can attest, this is generally not the case. At this point I just couldn't see spending the extra money for the SGS2 when this phone is only 5 months old and will do everything I need.
     
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    YAHOOOO! I did it - got a FREE Nexus S4G at Best Buy last night. This morning I tried the bluetooth. It works like a champ - exactly as it should. Everybody in my family is happy now. My 17 year old son got my Epic and his little sister got her first phone - his 10 month old Optimus. I am thrilled with the Nexus! Perfect. I recommend it to everyone.
     
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    Congratulations! Be sure to try out the Google Wallet. When you set it up you get $10 preloaded. I used it at McDonalds last night (thanks for dinner, Google ;)) and the cashier's eyes widened and he said, "Wow, is that the new iPhone!?" Lol, he was surprised it was an Android. It was very easy to use and I can see myself preloading and using every now and then.

    You, sir, have achieved the near impossible in making your entire family happy. Enjoy your new toy! I am very happy with mine too and would also recommend it! :D
     
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