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I am sick of it!

Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by norb, Feb 21, 2016.

  1. norb

    norb Android Enthusiast
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    To phone manfuacturers: I do not care much about nice looks. I do not care about 4k screen, nor leather backs or annoying stupid apps. I will not buy a locked phone ever again unless forced to by some unfortunate situation. What do I care about? 1) Sapphire screens. 2) Ruggedization. 3) Big time otg support for large memory cards and hooking the phone to a montior to enlarge what is being seen. 4) big time mem card support. 5) Cram the things full of silicone and make them completely water proof. I want to be able to wash it in the dish washer or clothes washer if I drop it in the toilet. 6) Replaceable batteries. 7) Processing power. Lots of it. A terraflop. 8 gigs ram. Etc... 8) Reception on all bands. All phones should work everywhere. No more country locking. 9) Speakers I can hear over a fan, clearly. 10) Rotation. The stupid rotation should work. MAKE YOUR CRAP PROPERLY YOU STUPID MANUFACTURERS! 11) A 7 inch screen so I can hit all those buttons in open office without that virtual mouse. 12) Cost. $200 should get me all that. 13) Some way to get back into a phone I locked myself out of. A second key, phyical, plus pass code? Some kinda method. 14) And improve your sorry manufacturing quality! No more non rotaty phones!
     


  2. mikedt

    mikedt 你好

    Vertu does phones with sapphire screens, got $10,000? As for getting into a device you're locked out of, speak to the FBI about iPhones. ;)
     
  3. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
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    How big a loss per phone should the manufacturer accept to keep you happy? The bill of materials alone for a phone that doesn't have half of that stuff exceeds your selling price.

    Or are you thinking of subsidised prices where the carrier reduces your upfront costs but requires you to pay them back a lot more than the subsidy through higher contract charges? Because those handsets are going to be locked, which you said at the start was a no-no.

    But let's face the real problem: no manufacturer or carrier is reading this. We're just other phone users. You need to address your complaints and suggestions to people who can do something about it, otherwise you are just letting off steam.
     
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  4. psionandy

    psionandy Extreme Android User

    Congrats... I assume you're purchassing one of these http://business.panasonic.co.uk/computer-product/toughpad/FZ-X1

    What do I care about?
    1) Sapphire screens. Not an issue here... you don't care about looks or resolution. so this should do intead
    2) Ruggedization. Oh yes
    3) Big time otg support for large memory cards and hooking the phone to a montior to enlarge what is being seen. .. yes and optional docking station
    4) big time mem card support. Yes
    l5) Cram the things full of silicone and make them completely water proof. I want to be able to wash it in the dish washer or clothes washer if I drop it in the toilet. ... well if anything can this can
    6) Replaceable batteries. yes.. hotswappable

    7) Processing power. Lots of it. A terraflop. 8 gigs ram. Etc.. hey I know you're exagerating but you do get a Qualcomm® MSM8974AB 2.3 GHz Quad-core processor (FZ-E1) and 2GB or Ram as standard

    8) Reception on all bands. All phones should work everywhere. No more country locking. yes

    9) Speakers I can hear over a fan, clearly. yup

    10) Rotation. yes



    Now for the options
    ! 11) A 7 inch screen so I can hit all those buttons in open office without that virtual mouse.... ahh you said you wanted a phone. if you're trying to run open office in a tablet mode you're using the wrong device

    12) Cost. $1200 should get me all that. well, its about that.. (fixed that missing digit for you btw)

    13) Some way to get back into a phone I locked myself out of. A second key, phyical, plus pass code? Some kinda method. remember to set the options properly

    14) And improve your sorry manufacturing quality! No more non rotaty phones!
    I have no idea what a rotaty phone is.. so I'm not sure what a non rotaty one is.....




    Enjoy your purchase... and feel free to come back AFTER you've bought it. We'll wait till then ;)
     
    #4 psionandy, Feb 21, 2016
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  5. Dngrsone

    Dngrsone Android Expert

    Five and six are pretty much measly exclusive.

    As for price... Well when everyone else has got their cell phones integrated into their skulls, then you'll get your price point for a handheld.
     
  6. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    LOL hahahahaha..... give a sec.. while get catch my breath from laughing. thanks for that!

    now.. I want a Tesla car.. that can do from 0-60 in under 4 seconds.. Model X!!!
    but for $15,000. YES brand new.. and NO manufacturing issues!
    I am tired of car manufacturers that cant get me this!!!
    and you better not load any stupid apps!!!
     
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  7. Deleted User

    Deleted User Guest

    And has a range of 1000 miles?

    Looks like this subject still has a lot of mileage left, doesn't it? :D
     
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  8. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    oh oh oh..

    and can turn into a submarine...
     
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  9. Slug

    Slug Check six!
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    Would you like some pixie dust and unicorn eggs with that order? :rolleyes:
     
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  10. dan330

    dan330 Extreme Android User

    now.. you are just being silly.

    totally unrealistic
     
  11. Crashdamage

    Crashdamage Android Expert

    Pixie dust on blueberry pancakes and unicorn eggs over easy, please.
     
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  12. MLSS

    MLSS Android Expert

    You seem to want an awful lot for nothing lol
     
  13. MLSS

    MLSS Android Expert

    I have some fresh unicorn eggs I could sell you or trade for this magical phone that the OP wants! [emoji41]
     
  14. Revenant Ghost

    Revenant Ghost Android Expert

    Sorry OP, but that pretty much sums up your demands.
     
  15. AZgl1500

    AZgl1500 Extreme Android User

    Congrats... I assume you're purchassing one of these http://business.panasonic.co.uk/computer-product/toughpad/FZ-X1


    I used to work for Phoenix Fire Department in the 911 Dispatch Center (retired now).... I installed hundreds of the Panasonic Toughbook laptop computers in the Fire Apparatus... those things are strong enough a fire truck could run over one accidentally and it still work!
    actually, someone was stupid enough to drive a car over one to prove it, and the thing did not even have a dent in the case.

    usually.... the software designed by our in-house programmers gave the driver ( Engineer ) a Yellow Brick Road to follow within 1 second of the Dispatch going out. When they got a call, that screen woke up, the GPS map displays the current area and about 5 or 6 streets in all 4 directions.... it condenses with speed of course.... but the YELLOW BRICK ROAD shows the driver exactly where to go....

    Phoenix is full of One Way streets and that Yellow Brick Road helped prevent the trucks from turning into Head On traffic...
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I would love to have that Toughpad, but that is all a dream for my retirement check :rolleyes:

    I noted it is using 4.2.2 bravo!!! to hell with lolliFlop, I hate that crap
     
  16. norb

    norb Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    Okay, some of it is exaggeration. But for $200 the screen should actually rotat and their should be otg support for 128gb cards.
     
  17. solaris9123

    solaris9123 Member

    Yeah but jellybean? Wth? They couldn't even give it KitKat?
     
  18. MLSS

    MLSS Android Expert

    My phone cost a hundred bucks and the screen rotates just fine......
    I use a 64gig SD card that I'll never fill up.
     
  19. chanchan05

    chanchan05 The Doctor

    What are you talking about? I have a $100 Samsung (Galaxy V) and the screen rotates fine. And good luck with OTG for low end devices. That needs additional hardware. It's not a software thing only.
     
  20. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Extreme Android User

    Ran into some apps that only worked in portrait?
    I've seen about 3.
     
  21. zuben el genub

    zuben el genub Extreme Android User

    My rant is some app makers getting their act together about file systems. I just removed Aviary - it's a nice program, it works, but it won't let you store just the images on the SD card. I was winding up with triple images in an album. I did search for an answer, and Aviary doesn't work that way - you work around with copies of images.

    If the phone says the SD card is for media, then put it there or allow the user to move just the media there.

    Also put into specs what the app doesn't do. I asked about Exif and only one company answered. I don't need 3 pages of what stickers you have, image distorters and frames. Put in the rest of the info. Keep all the fantastics where most can see them so those that like, can buy, but stick in another file with more specs somewhere, please. I'm tired of installing an app, then finding out it doesn't work in the general fashion. It doesn't look like Google is keeping track of unistalls yet. Maybe if they did, some app makers would get a clue that things are amiss. Not everyone likes to post reviews. I can disappear an app from a list, but that still doesn't say "uninstalled" I've got some apps listed that I used on a Nexus S, and don't work too well on newer stuff. Those should be removed as the phone has been removed from Google and the maker should know if he's still around.

    Some apps will not let you rename a reworked file, they just keep it in their own folder. As long as they don't insist - you can cut and paste to a folder with the same name on the card. Another app that keeps images is Image Shrink. The pro version lets you decide how long to keep from one day to forever. Very handy if using 2 different texting apps. (I have one for overseas)

    I must have just bought $20 - $30 of new apps, if not more. I found the messes when I transferred phones. I did buy 2 in app. Both stated that the buy "tag" would go to Google Play. (it did) No beer nonsense.
     
  22. norb

    norb Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    Both the blue studio one and sony m4 aqua have rotation issues. Takes minutes just to rotate. Do you know if the zte axon and axon pro have otg for 64gig cards? I emailed them and they said to call a number, but that makes me uncomfortable as I prefer on record communications.
     
  23. Slug

    Slug Check six!
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    I don't think there's a size limit for OTG support; if the device can be recognised it should work. I hooked a 500GB external hdd up to my old Xperia Z and it was identified correctly. Couldn't do anything with it as it was formatted EXT3 for use with a Linux-based PVR box but as a proof-of-concept it worked fine. :)
     
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  24. zixxorb

    zixxorb Android Enthusiast

    I have an external 1TB Hardrive formatted as NTFS that I can use with my tablet :D
     
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  25. norb

    norb Android Enthusiast
    Thread Starter

    Finding a screen that rotates without having to wait long perikds of time on it, band 12, and 64gb card support is apparwntly impossible for $200 or less. If it is possible please let me know. Keep in mind in ned band 12 and preferably sprint bands too (24&25?).
     
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