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  1. HarryC

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    May I suggest that from now on, all new phones come with an inbuilt taser that delivers a severe electric shock to the user whenever they begin recording vertical video?
     

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    I vote yes.
     
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    I'm pretty sure the stock, AOSP Camera app prompts you to change the orientation of your phone when you start recording a video.

    An electric shock would probably work better though.
     
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    I just tried mine, there was no prompt. Good idea if there was, but the electrocution of thoughtless dunces is an infinitely more satisfying prospect.
     
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    If the action is in a narrow field, I record vertically to get the unnecessary junk out of the picture and focus more on whatever I'm recording. Up to now, I haven't seen any decent telephotos in video to narrow the width of field.
    The longer the lens, the narrower the focus. It's also easier to find the subject when the excess bit of screen is vertical. I'd also prefer optical over digital zoom
     
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    Interesting points re. editing.

    My attitude is that as most of the screens you're going to watch stuff on are horizontal, so that should be the orientation they're recorded in.
     
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    This thread actually reminded me of this:
     
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    lol yeah I'd say we've all seen that. Some good points made. It's natural and comfortable to view moving pictures in wide, not high, screen.
     
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    The very first TVs had vertical video.
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    1929 Baird televisor.

    And so did Stanley Kubrick's vision of 2001.
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    What goes around, comes around. :D

    But why did triangular video never catch on?
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    "May your forehead grow like the mighty oak!"
     
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    Yes, well if I had to guess about that I'd say the first tv may have been imagined with the portrait view of a single conversing person in mind (wasn't that the case in '1984'?). Ha, I never noticed that in 2001. As for the triangle one, my how ergonomic and practical is that? If we had those we could argue about the orientation of the triangle lol
     
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    I actually don't mind vertical video as long as it fills up the whole screen. Those little vertical videos, with a lot of black around them get on my nerves though.
     
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    Let me propose an exercise.

    Hold you hands flat about a foot from your face, about 3 inches apart and vertically. Look around. Observe. Now do the same with your hands held horizontally.

    Which method is about four hundred times more irritating and uncomfortable than the other?
     
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    What's even worse is when the sidebars are blurry imitations of the colours of the video to try and make it look natural. Just awful.
     
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    Yeah that's even worse than the big black sidebars
     
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    The golden mean is in both portrait and landscape. If you follow the rules, you'll get a decent picture.

    I prefer portrait since most of my apps need to be read rather than watched and I don't need two hands to hold the phone.
    The ones that need landscape will go to landscape from portrait and that will make you turn the phone.

    As for video, try filming a ferret running around in piles of Xmas wrappings. It's easier to follow him with the camera than just stay on landscape and hope people find the little bugger.
     
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    The golden mean is in both portrait and landscape. If you follow the rules, you'll get a decent picture.

    I prefer portrait since most of my apps need to be read rather than watched and I don't need two hands to hold the phone.
    The ones that need landscape will go to landscape from portrait and that will make you turn the phone.

    As for video, try filming a ferret running around in piles of Xmas wrappings. It's easier to follow him with the camera than just stay on landscape and hope people find the little bugger.
     
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    It's fine if it's just stuff you're going to keep on your phone for your own personal use. It's when people post these vertical videos on the internet or on TV that it's annoying watching a little sliver of video on a wide screen.
     
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    I'm not sure what you mean when you say app. I'm talking exclusively about video. I'm fine with still pictures or text being vertical, it's perfectly normal. Video's different.

    As for the ferret, not sure if you're joking. Just because you record in landscape, that doesn't stop you moving the camera does it?

    I'm also confused as to why so many people think you need two hands to hold a phone horizontally.
     
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    Depends on your zoom. A ferret is a fairly small animal. It can run and it is totally unpredictable to anyone but another ferret. If you are trying to record most of the family room to get the aftermath of Xmas AM, you will lose the critter in the paper. It will be in a different pile of trash faster than the eye can discern. It also burrows.
    If you do portrait, you will have room on the sides to track the animal. If not, it could come out of the paper where you don't see it. That's one place a good small video camera works better.

    I've had trouble with the critters in a small bathroom and a good video camera! They do their business in corners and the bathroom with all the dangers out of the way is a great place to run them and easier to clean. We had 3 of the kid's ferrets in quarantine until she could get them to the UK and she wanted videos. If you don't follow the ferrets somewhat, all you get is a blurry streak. I got them unrolling the toilet paper. That was portrait. I didn't want the rest of the bathroom in the scene. It would have spoiled the ferret-y action.

    With scenery, it depends on what you are trying to convey. If I was driving down a fairly open canyon, I'd probably use portrait to video. That would accentuate the cliffs on the side. I'd have either one of my digital cameras (Canon) to record a part of the scenery in landscape. Or I'd switch the phone mode.

    Your camera uses an app. Depending on which app, you can get more, different control up to what the hardware allows. I use Camera 5vF. I have a lot more settings to work with that it makes getting a still photo easier. I'm sure that some of the video people here have apps that improve on the default video settings. Ask in a forum. The info you get would be helpful to others.

    Pair 5Vf with the camera hardware on the Moto Pure X, and it is really pretty good for a cell phone.

    I'd say use both, but be aware of your subject and what you are saying about your subject.
     

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