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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by mkampy, May 8, 2010.

  1. mkampy

    mkampy Well-Known Member
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    Today I sold the Android phone I'd been borrowing and had to go back to my Blackberry. Now dont get me wrong, there are things I still love about the BB, like the instant e-mail for ALL accounts (although I guess I can wait 5 min to get them with the EVO)

    But even with a relatively outdated phone ( Moment with no updated software) it was waaay faster than my BB. Now to make matters worse, the EVO is going to scream past that.


    * chants oh lord grant me the patience for this phone... as
    he rocks back & forth in his chair!!
    :cool::cool:
     

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  2. Android 17

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    Your initial mistake was in using a Blackberry in the first place.

    But don't worry, when you get the EVO, you'll appreciate it that much more!
     
  3. legacy

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    My iPhone gets my email before my Blackberry does....

    Thinking my Evo will too.
     
  4. fr4nk1yn

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    I not the 1st mistake selling a phone you borrowed?
     
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  5. boomhower

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    What email are you using that isn't instant on you Android?
     
  6. djdisturbed

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    My pop email account is not instant on any phone/computer that i ever owned. BUT thatsalso why i have been switching to my gmail account as my main account
     
  7. Scott Spillers

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    Switch from POP to IMAP. The IMAP headers are sent just about instantly. The same goes for Gmail accounts. Alternately, you can setup a new Gmail account and auto forward mail from the POP account to the Gmail account and you will see them just as quick. Don't setup Gmail to retrieve the messages from POP. That can delay them by 15 minutes or more sometimes.
     
  8. djdisturbed

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    ahh, but my pop account CANT do imap (thanks time warner cable). Plus, I'm not to worried about it, was geting tooooooo much junk crap in it anyway, i use it as a throw away account now to sign up for websites I dont ant emailing me all the time but require an email. I was just saying there are some systems people are still using that you cannot get instantly.
     
  9. mkampy

    mkampy Well-Known Member
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    Maybe, but I had no idea about Android at the time, and BB was the shiznit.( at least at the time)

    Ignorance IS bliss :p
     
  10. mkampy

    mkampy Well-Known Member
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    Everything other than Gmail.
     
  11. mkampy

    mkampy Well-Known Member
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    POP or IMAP would not make a difference, at least with the Moment, you had to do a minimum of 5 min to "go check" where it seemed like the Gmail was an actual "push"
     
  12. mkampy

    mkampy Well-Known Member
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    Yeah, if I decided I could not wait even 5 min for e-mail, I can also set up the other clients to forward direct to gmail, and get itinstantly. I would just have to look closer @ the settings to see if I could tell where the e-mail originated from at a glance.

    All in all, still not a reason to sway me against the android platform.
     
  13. SB22

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    Exactly, regardless of POP or IMAP, they both have to be "polled" every so often to get emails. POP will just "download" the emails to the phone, IMAP will actually keep your email on the phone and email server in synchronization so you can delete, edit, move email to a folder and it will be seen on the server, or for another machine to view later. There are some more technical differences, but that will get the gist of it.

    Another option, although not free, is to buy a domain and use a hosted Exchange service. I bought my "lastname".com and have my whole family running on it. My mother even gets a kick out of telling people what her email address is now.
     
  14. Covert_Death

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    HTC has it's own email app, maybe that is push for all POP and IMAP emails?
     
  15. djdisturbed

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    Would be nice if it worked that way, BUT its server side that has to be able to "push" the email out. A app my be able to recieve push mail, but it has to have a source to get it from that is pushing it out instead on waiting for the app to ask for it.
     
  16. Covert_Death

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    gottcha, i never really cared much for the difference in email so i guess i don't full understand the problem here... my bad.

    so what your saying is the gmail app is push notification because it is made by google, and the actual gmail KNOWS to push it to it's own app?

    so by this you are saying to have ... say comcast be push notification you would have to have a comcast app set up to your POP server?
     
  17. talz13

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    It's just a different way of doing it. POP and IMAP require the client (i.e. You) to go ask the server if there are any messages. Push puts the onus on the server to go out to the client and tell it that there are new messages.

    Gmail push seems to just be using an exchange server style setup where you just have the phone sync with that exchange server. That's the difference from the client end (at least on my WM phone). The push services seem to use the same underlying setup (pardon my ignorance if that's not the case), so it's not that you have to have a "Google" program to get push notification for gmail, and a "Comcast" program to get push notification from comcast, just that each service supports push at the server end. If they don't, there's nothing you can do to "fix" it at the client side.
     
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