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Discussion in 'Android Apps & Games' started by jimdays, Mar 23, 2016.

  1. jimdays

    jimdays Newbie
    Thread Starter

    I heard that you need a rooted phone to access the actual install file (apk file) when you download from Google Play.
    Here is the free software from Google Play:
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.audials&hl=en
    The software name is Audials. I installed the software and it works no problem (allows you to play/record many internet radio stations). However, I am old school and would like to have the corresponding apk file as a backup to be stored. If you know how to do that (get the apk file), please reply and attach the apk file so I can get it.
    Also, if you could briefly show me (with screenshots) how you got the apk file, that would be useful.
     


  2. Hadron

    Hadron Smoke me a kipper...
    VIP Member

    Do any of the apk backup apps in the Play Store work? Or you could use the Helium backup app, which can back the app up without requiring root. That should do what you ask.

    Even for a free app the developer has copyright, which means that we should not redistribute it unless they give permission (some do, some don't, and I don't know with this app). Hence I figure it's better if you can make your own backup.
     
    #2 Hadron, Mar 23, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 23, 2016
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  3. vosg

    vosg Android Expert

    You do NOT need root access to backup APK files.
     
  4. Telyx

    Telyx Well-Known Member

    Try APK Dumper from the Play Store.
     
  5. jimdays

    jimdays Newbie
    Thread Starter

    Thank you for replies. I'll look into above suggestions. To be clear:
    1) I don't want to root the phone.
    2) I also want the actual apk install file, not an encoded file that will back up the actual apk file.
     
  6. RazzMaTazz

    RazzMaTazz Android Expert

    I use Helium (which Hadron suggested above). Just to confirm your questions:
    1) Helium doesn't require root.
    2) Helium puts a copy of the (normal installable) APK in a folder called "Carbon" located at the top level of your phone's internal storage. From there you can drag it to your PC for safekeeping, if you like. Helium can also backup your data and phone settings.

    In order to use Helium, you have to:
    1) Install the app on your phone.
    2) Install a small Helium program on your PC, Mac, or Linux-PC.
    3) Connect the phone & PC by USB and launch both the phone-app & PC program.
     
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  7. jimdays

    jimdays Newbie
    Thread Starter

    "I use Helium (which Hadron suggested above). Just to confirm your questions:
    1) Helium doesn't require root.
    2) Helium puts a copy of the (normal installable) APK in a folder called "Carbon" located at the top level of your phone's internal storage. From there you can drag it to your PC for safekeeping, if you like. Helium can also backup your data and phone settings.
    In order to use Helium, you have to:
    1) Install the app on your phone.
    2) Install a small Helium program on your PC, Mac, or Linux-PC.
    3) Connect the phone & PC by USB and launch both the phone-app & PC program."


    Thank you for the clear and useful reply.
     
  8. electricpete

    electricpete Android Expert

    I'm not sure I fully understand the request, but you don't need the complexity if helium and pc.

    Install App backup and restore
    Open the above app and backup any app
    Using a file explorer, you'll see the apk is on your internal sd card directory App_Backup_Restore
     
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  9. RazzMaTazz

    RazzMaTazz Android Expert

    Thanks Eletricpete. I thought that root (or Helium's trick) was needed to backup APKs.

    Did that change sometime after Android 2.3 as part of newer Android OSes? On my old Android 2.3 device I thought I had to root it in order to backup the apps (with Titanium Backup).

    I guess at this point (for unrooted users) the advantage of Helium (over App_Backup_Restore) is that Helium can also save app data & system settings.
     
  10. electricpete

    electricpete Android Expert

    I don't know about how it used to be. I think I've used the app since 4.3

    I agree, helium does more than the app I mentioned, which only backs up apk's.

    One limitation of the app I mentioned is that it won't back up paid apps (unless the license key is separate install from playstore). That sort of makes sense. IF you had that capability, you could transfer the apk to other users to bypass their payment. Don't know how helium approaches that issue.
     
    #10 electricpete, Mar 26, 2016
    Last edited: Mar 26, 2016
  11. James_Watson

    James_Watson Android Enthusiast

    Yes, even for a free app, we should not redistribute it unless they give permission. :cool:
     
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