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  1. emibub

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    My Optimus V only comes with 2G of space but says it is upgradeable to 32G. I upgraded my card to 16G after filling up the phone pretty quickly. But, I don't seem to utilize any of the space on the card because everytime I want to load an app I don't have enough room on the phone to load it so I can move the app to the SD card. I know it gives me extra room for photos and music because those apparently go straight to the card but I want more apps. I know the Optimus is an entry level phone and at $25 a month I am very happy. Just wondering if I am misunderstanding how the SD card works.
     

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    You've got it, however if you want to have alot of apps at once you can root and set up link2sd and have virtually as much space for apps as you do on your sd because it will move the majority of the app to the card. I currently have 206 apps installed with 86mb free internal. There's alot of people to help you when you're ready. Just come over to the root section
     
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    I'm such a novice to all this that rooting makes me nervous. But, it is ridiculous to say you can upgrade to 32g and not have a way to get it on the card. I'm going to check the rooting out. Thanks very much.
     
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    Download app 2 sd and move every app available to the sd card. Then use it to clear all app caches.
     
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    Start with the All Things Root Guide, stickied at the top of the sub forum. Every thing you need can be found there, plus plenty of helpful members.
     
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    I wouldn't worry about it, rooting can't brick your phone and you can unroot the phone for warranty purposes if need be.

    It's when you install a new ROM that can cause problems with bricking and that's usually because the person didn't follow or pay attention to the process.
     
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    Just an FYI: I don't recommend doing that. It's fraud. Unrooting does not magically revalidate the warranty. Once it's rooted, that's it. Warranty is toast.

    Sorry bac.. not calling you out. Just clarifying misinformation.
     
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    I would have to agree with NoNameFace. When I was a newbie and bricked my first phone, LG would not validate the warranty. They would however, let me send it to them and fix it, at my expense. They said it would cost anywhere from $40.00 to $125.00 if I remember correctly.
     
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    If you don't want to root, you can:

    1. Get a cache cleaner and clear cache.
    2. Clear data - some apps store a LOT
    3. Move any app to SD that you can - not all of the app will move, but often enough to get you the space you need (don't move apps that you use widgets for, they won't work from SD)
    4. Uninstall updates to google maps and the market, maybe other apps.

    You can go into settings and list all apps by size, and clear cache and data and updates from there to get started. I always remove updates from the pre-installed apps I never use too. I can't uninstall them without root, but i can make them take up a lot less space.

    I am not rooted and have, oh, 50 or so apps. I do have to delete data, cache and updates from time to time, but I manage.

    I have a big SD card too and I use it mostly for music, ebooks/audio books, and an offline mapping app (CoPilot).
     
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    Where is that in the warranty? I just reviewed the hardware warranty in the manual and saw nothing that specifically says rooting a phone causes the warranty to be void. You may be able to apply the clause "unauthorized modi&#64257;cations" but since the Library of Congress has stated that rooting a phone doesn't violate laws, that most likely would not hold up in court. And based on the warranty clauses I'm reading, taking the phone out of the box pretty much violates the warranty. Anyone who used their phone outside on a day when it was misting or raining...well you've violated you warranty since it specifically says that warranty is void if "exposure to moisture or dampness". Ever drop your phone...yup warranty violated, that qualifies as "neglect" or "abuse". Ever connect to an open hotspot that you shouldn't have connected too...warranty void since that could be considered "unauthorized connections"...yeah I know they probably mean hardware connections, but since it's not clearly define in the warranty clause, it could be unauthorized software connection too. But if they do mean hardware connections, hope you don't charge your phone up with something other then LG's power supply, that too could be considered "unauthorized connections" or apply the clause "...use of non LG approved accessories"

    So before proclaiming fraud just because you rooted and then unrooted the phone is silly, it could be construed that anyone returning a phone under warranty could be considered fraud as the warranty language is so open ended LG wouldn't have much difficulty applying one of their warranty violating clauses.

    Not calling you out either NoNameFace, I don't necessary disagree per say, but pretty much using the phone violates the warranty ;)!
     
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    You make a fair point, the issue here is in this sue happy world (Apple vs Samsung, anyone?) the owner of this website has an obligation to not violate the policies of the companies whose products and services are discussed. Due to that we have an obligation to avoid discussion topics that fly in the face of said policies. Otherwise the thread gets locked, and we risk getting banned. I'm sorry that it is the way it is, but ce la vie. To me, it simply isn't worth it.
     
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    LOL...if that was the case they better shut down all the rooting forums here then.

    Honestly, I'd be shock if LG didn't fix a legitimate warranty claim even if the customer had rooted the phone and sent it back that way. On the other hand, if you dropped the phone into a lake I could see them denying the warranty claim..cheers!

    Anyway, at the risk of turning into a thread hijack, I still think rooting the phone is safe to do.
     
  13. AndyOpie150

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    All the information you seek is in the grey "Terms of Service" booklet and the "Site Rules & Regulations".

    LG will fix anything wrong with your phone. If it has been rooted you will be charged for those repairs.
    I know this because when I was a new member I bricked the first V after voiding the warranty and was told ^ that very thing
     
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    I live by the motto it isn't really yours until you void the warranty. If my phone breaks, it's on me and I accept that.
     
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    Rooting the phone does not violate any mobile carriers terms of service. However, we aren't discussing a mobile carriers terms of service. The law now covers us and allows us to root our phones without ramification from our mobile carrier. What that law does not cover are the phone manufacturers warranties. We're discussing the phone manufacturers warranty. Two different companies regardless of the "branding". The warranty from LG does not cover unauthorized modifications, which you must do to the software in order to gain root.

    What is confusing though is the type of modifications they refer to... do they mean hardware, software, or both? I'll play it safe and guess that they mean the entire phone. I suppose an email to their warranty and DMCA departments (both) would be in order for anyone who really wanted an answer.
     
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    Unless you write for a court of law with jurisdiction in such matters or have extensive legal expertise and the sources to back you up, I
     
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    LG will fix anything wrong with your phone. If it has been rooted you will be charged for those repairs. I know this because when I was a new member I bricked the first V after voiding the warranty and was told ^ that very thing.
    When I was a newbie and bricked my first phone, LG would not validate the warranty. They would however, let me send it to them and fix it, at my expense. They said it would cost anywhere from $40.00 to $125.00 if I remember correctly.
    All the information you seek is in the grey "Terms of Service" booklet and the "Site Rules & Regulations".
     
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    I totally agree with rooting and using Link2SD for the Optimus V (I consider it almost a requirement). On my 16.Gig Micro-SD card, I set up a 1.Gig partition for Link2SD, leaving 15.Gig for regular SD card storage (photos and such), and the phone usually has around 100.Meg free even with lots of apps installed, since almost all installed apps are sitting in the Link2SD partition.

    Link2SD doesn't have the issues that App2SD has with some apps, and all apps can be moved. I only found a few apps that didn't work correctly when moved with Link2SD, and they were keyboard apps, so if you installed an alternate keyboard app, like SwiftKey X as one example, don't link it, but you can link everything else, including all the updates to the stock apps (like Maps, GMail, etc.).
     
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    You bricked it just rooting it? Or trying to install a new rom? If the latter is true I can see why LG would charge for that, can't say I've ever heard of anyone bricking their phone by rooting it, I've always been able to restore through ADB when a lot of people thought the phone/tablet was bricked.
     
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    Not to get off topic. Back when I was new to smart phones, I had only rooted the first one to remove bloatware. Was never informed at the site I got the instructions from to install a recovery and they had me using the wrong method to root. Things eventually whent bad and I used the factory reset. No custom recovery to save it hence boots to LG logo and can't get it into any recovery, pc doesn't recognize it=brick. It can still be fixed by LG, but because I rooted it they would not validate the warranty, but were happy to fix it at my cost.
     
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