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Important Notice - Security Breach

Discussion in 'Site Updates & Announcements' started by Phases, Jul 10, 2012.

  1. Phases

    Thread Starter

    Before reading this - please take a moment to change your password on androidforums.com. This can be done while logged in through your UserCP, or using the "forgot your password?" page if logged out.

    I have some unfortunate news to pass along. Yesterday I was informed by our sever/developer team that the server hosting androidforums.com was compromised and the website's database was accessed. While the breach is most likely harmless there are important and potential pitfalls, and we want to provide as much helpful information to our users as possible (without getting too technical).

    The trust of our users is extremely important and several staff members worked through the afternoon, evening, night, and morning to ensure we're doing everything possible to regain complete security.

    Here are the facts:

    - The exploit used has been identified and resolved. The server has been further hardened and extra "just in case" actions have been taken.. and will continue to be taken.

    - All code that resides in the database and the file system has been thoroughly reviewed for malicious edits and uploads.

    - No other sites in our network appear to have been accessed (we're triple checking).

    - The user table of AndroidForum's database was (at a minimum) accessed. While we can't prove or disprove whether or not the data was downloaded (due to the way the data was transferred), it's completely possible.. and we've taken action assuming this is the case.

    - Information in the user database includes: Unique ids, usernames, emails, hashed (encoded) and salted passwords, registration IP addresses, usergroup memberships, infraction levels, last time online, last post date, post count... as well as far less critical things like number of PMs, visitor messages, last online dates, and some vbulletin options set in your UserCP.

    - Immediately following the incident, all ~100 staff were notified of a pending password change - and all passwords to were changed to random strings. Almost all are back in with new passwords. Because gaining access to a staff member account could pose the biggest threat, we first moved to secure these accounts.

    What Probably Happened

    This was, in our current opinion, most likely an e-mail harvesting attempt. A spammer could theoretically attempt to bulk e-mail all AF users with the user database. Luckily, GMail and similar e-mail services offer a "spam" button that helps it to collectively identify and automatically filter potential spam.

    It's also absolutely possible that nothing of consequence happened. There is some chance they did not get enough of the database to matter, did this for fun to see if they could, or will not move forward with any plans after finding out we're actively investigating. This is a serious offense and you can best bet we are doing just that.

    What Could Happen?

    We take matters like these incredibly seriously and want to make sure you're warned of ALL the possibilities, regardless of how slim the chances. You can never be too safe, so we're asking you to consider the possibilities and protect accordingly.

    - This could be someone who is upset with us who hopes to use the information against staff

    - With username, email, and IP information, a skilled hacker could pretend to be other users.

    - They could blackmail us and threaten to publish the information publicly.

    - Knowing your IP one can get a general idea of where you are located in the world, though most your IPs are dynamic and will change before too long anyway.

    - With a username and hashed password one could open a session with accounts on other sites that use the same credentials - if they gain file level access to that site first. These were salted passwords which adds to the complexity, but nonetheless we recommend playing it safe.

    What should you do?

    Although we're confident the threat is neutralized it is still highly recommended that you change your password here and on other sites where you use the same username/password. This can be done while logged in through your UserCP, or using the "forgot your password?" page if logged out. You can also contact me via PM or Contact Form and we will help you if you need.

    No website wants to make an announcement like this. I assure you we, as the Neverstill Team, could not apologize profusely enough. Websites come under attack all time time - and sometimes the bad guys make it in. Unfortunately for us, yesterday was our time. We have been attacked before but never breached, and please know we are going to continue to do everything in our power to ensure it doesn't happen again.

    If you have any questions please let us know - we will do our best to answer them. I will leave this thread open for discussion as long as it remains productive.

    -Phases, Rob, and the Neverstill Team

    UPDATE: I forgot to mention. If you are using an Android Application to access the forums (Tapatalk, Phandroid App) - they will not register the password change and may flood your email with "someone has tried to access your account" emails. Unfortunately the only advice I have for that is to uninstall/re-install the app, if you cannot change your password from within.

    UPDATE 2: If you are requesting account deletions, please email me at phases@phandroid.com with the email account you registered with. Thanks for understanding.

    UPDATE 3:Rob's weighs in on why no mass email was sent - here.


  2. Best Answer:
    Post #18 by TVictory, Jul 10, 2012 (3 points)

    1. Download the Forums for Android™ app!


  3. DonB

    DonB ♡ Truth, Justice and the American Way !! ♡ ™

    All I can say is WOW, in the diligence and efficient fast work in neutralizing this matter, you guys Rock and I am sure every member here knows that you have there best security and interest in mind. Thanks for all you do and we all appreciate the hard work that you all do to keep us protected and this site running, Well Done :congrats:
    Mkulima, Russ71, inferno9209 and 10 others like this.
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ...eschew obfuscation...

    Let me one to thank Phases, the developers, moderators, and anyone else that helped. I'm sure it was/is a struggle.
    Mkulima, Russ71, Sisteract and 5 others like this.
  5. Member112085

    Member112085 Guest

    Absolutely fantastic, informative post. Thank you and the entire staff for your diligence in not only responding to the breach, but keeping us so well informed. KUDOS to all of you!:D
  6. aboatright

    aboatright Android Expert

    Thank you so very much for continuing the awesome protection you guys give every member. I applaud your work as does everyone else I'm sure. Thanks again for the announcement.
    droidsix likes this.
  7. D-U-R-X

    D-U-R-X turbo drinker

    Nobody wants to see this sort of thing happen, but it's good to know that you and the team have our backs!

    Thanks again!!
    droidsix likes this.
  8. Ramzes13

    Ramzes13 Android Enthusiast

    could not have said it better myself.
    droidsix likes this.
  9. wetbiker7

    wetbiker7 Extreme Android User

    After changing my password, I just received this email:

    Dear wetbiker7,

    Someone has tried to log into your account on Android Forums with an incorrect password at least 5 times. This person has been prevented from attempting to login to your account for the next 15 minutes.

    The person trying to log into your account had the following IP address: [Redacted]


    Whoever hacked AF got my password and tried to access my account. That sux man!

    Thanks for the heads up. Glad I changed my password. I don't know if this IP will help you guys but if it does.... bust their ass will ya.
    Russ71 likes this.
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ...eschew obfuscation...

    You will need to change your password in any forum app that you use (e.g. AF forum app, tapatalk, forum runner, etc.) or they will continue to try and log in under your old credentials.
    Lks Lks, wetbiker7 and Steven58 like this.
  11. trophynuts

    trophynuts Extreme Android User

    like you said Things like this always have a possibility of happening. It seems as though it was handled accordingly. So thanks for that.
    Unforgiven likes this.
  12. VoidedSaint

    VoidedSaint Resident Ninja

    i am also very surprised at how quick a solution was offered to everyone, it didnt take any time, and the matter got resolved very quickly. I am also glad to know that this community will gladly inform people of situations that arise, and want you to protect yourself in every way possible.

    I say thank you to everyone involved, you guys/gals are what makes this place the best place to come to.
    Steven58 likes this.
  13. wetbiker7

    wetbiker7 Extreme Android User

    I agree. The MODs jumped on this 1 and got the word out pretty quickly. Nice job people. :)
    Russ71 and VoidedSaint like this.
  14. Daino92

    Daino92 Member

    Thanks for the info, and great job keeping all of us safe and acting so swiftly. :)
  15. Marcha

    Marcha Well-Known Member

    Thanx!!! "You're simply the best!"
  16. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
    VIP Member

    Sometimes that's an error generated by our app trying to log in or other web confusion.

    To see if it's that or something worse, please google: my ip

    And compare to that found in that sort of email.

    To Phases and the Neverstill Team - thanks for being never still on our protection!
  17. chrlswltrs

    chrlswltrs Extreme Android User

    Thank you to all the staff that noticed the breech and acted so quickly!

    And Phases, thank you for all the information about what exactly went down. :thumbup:
    Russ71 likes this.
  18. TVictory

    TVictory Well-Known Member

    The sysadmin Android Forums - View Profile: mAcRoS has set up a pretty snazzy intrusion detection system which gives us fast alerts if something seeming to gone bad. He normally pings me about it and then i do the coding bit of it. While he tends to feed me info from logs etc..

    really its a simple mater of "no sleep" + "magic" == "fast turnarounds"

    blmbmj, Lks Lks, VoidedSaint and 11 others like this.
  19. TVictory

    TVictory Well-Known Member

    Now i don't want to point fingers, but if anyone happens to see this guy, i would really like to bring him in for questioning:

    Russ71, Rxpert83, scary alien and 6 others like this.
  20. Red Hare

    Red Hare Newbie

    I am going to try and reset my password, but I cannot remember it? Can I still change it whan I am loged in, like now?

    Also, well done, please keep us updated!
  21. TVictory

    TVictory Well-Known Member

    Logout then click the reset password button, thanks!
  22. Xyro

    Xyro 4 8 15 16 23 42

    Further to EM's post, keep in mind that you will have a separate IP when connecting over your mobile data connection, so make sure to check that one too.

    So far we have not seen any of the login error emails that cannot be explained by our own devices logging in witht he wrong password. We're more than happy to help people check their IP, however.

    Wetbiker, I've edited out that IP from your post. It would appear that you are on a dyanmic IP and the one you posted is from the range of IPs your internet provider usually provides you. So nothing to worry about there.
    Russ71, Rxpert83 and wetbiker7 like this.
  23. Red Hare

    Red Hare Newbie

    Thanks, but I am scared, what if I cannot get back in?

    OH, scratch that, I found my password. Wish me luck, and thanks to all!
  24. Phases

    Thread Starter

    Red Hare, don't worry. If you have trouble just submit a contact form and let us know, I'll get ya right back in. :)
  25. dautley

    dautley Android Expert

    I tried posting a few times here and got security token invalid. Looks like its working now. Just thought I'd give you a heads up in case this might have been something caused by what happened.
    *Edit* I just noticed the original message I tried to post in the attached photo appeared when I tried to "thank" Phases Op. I just went back and noticed my name wasn't in the thanks box after I hit the thanks button but as I said, its all working now.

  26. Red Hare

    Red Hare Newbie

    OK, there was a brief glitch, I did find my password, and I have changed it, when I returned to click thabnks, i got error message. Sio i exeted android foru, and now baclk on was able to click thanks, thansk, and good luck :)
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