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Discussion in 'Off Topic' started by SaleenFiend, Sep 12, 2012.

  1. SaleenFiend

    SaleenFiend Android Enthusiast
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    http://www.pcworld.com/article/262202/apple_vs_apl_tech_company_sues_online_polish_grocer_over_logo.html

    Really?? Not to add that Foxconn is making the headlines again: http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanadams/2012/09/12/apples-new-foxconn-embarrassment/

    Why stand behind a company this determined to create its own rules and bull head a monopoly into existence. They do not own the design, shape or being of an Apple in general, they did not create the "smartphone", have proved innability to innovate through i5 release, and plenty of naught. I'm ready for their arrogance to be corrected.

    Besides if I'm reading correctly the website in my second link is basically an A.com version for Poland. A.pl. the pl is the Poland domain. I hope this gets dismissed or Apple loses in the end with a countersue of cost. Please don't settle out of court.
     

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  2. javasirc

    javasirc Well-Known Member

    Those apples have nothing on common except a leaf. And they're pointing in slightly different directions.

    A silver apple with a bite in it vs a green circle with no bite.

    The website name is slightly concerning though. I know the .pl is Poland. But the A could be to make out look like apple. But its more likely because they wanted a short and simple name. The first letter of the alphabet. A key that is frequently typed.
     
  3. floosy

    floosy Newbie

    I should imagine that the Polish for "apple" is not infact "apple" or even "a.pl" and that a.pl is exactly that...a short snappy web address that is synonymous with being the "Alpha" web address in Poland.

    But then of course as far as the Yanks in Cupertino are concerned everyone else wants be American and therefore must think and spell like an American. :rolleyes:
     
  4. SaleenFiend

    SaleenFiend Android Enthusiast
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    Yea, I completely agree. It's a web url as if Americans made A.US
     
  5. Rush

    Rush {<>}~{<>}

    Let's keep all Apple related discussion over here.

    Thread moved to The Lounge forum. :)
     
  6. james515

    james515 Well-Known Member

    i finally know what is lower than pond scum... its Apple, I found this on another board

    Apple= A$$hole people practically litigating everyone
     
  7. ari-free

    ari-free Android Expert

    Suing a Polish deli? The sad thing is that there are Apple fans who will try to defend that.
     
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  8. sntaylor

    sntaylor Android Expert

    Apple are planning a law suit on the estate of Alexander Graham Bell for using the word 'phone'.
     
  9. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    It is possible that the grocer is trying to ride Apple's rocket ship. Not sure and I do not care. I DO know if you do not actively police and protect a trademark or copyright, you can lose your rights. But like I said, I do not know the case and I do not care much.

    I know a little something about Foxconn.We bought LCD/Digitizers from them.

    Not sure if the article you linked to is true or exaggerated. I do know that Fox is an almost unbelievably vast place and things happen when perhaps half a million people get together for a workday filled with pressure.

    Depending on the reports, something like 200,000 to 460,000 people work there. So lots of things can and will happen and when the press reports the news, it is perhaps further away from the truth than at least I am comfortable with.

    Not sure if Apple claimed to have invented the smartphone (corrections are welcome, if they are properly sourced) They most certainly popularized it, however.

    Not sure how much power Apple has over Foxconn. I recall an article that explained what it took to bring the iThings to market. Besides hundreds of thousands of workers, Apple required so many engineers and other resources, that building it at a reasonable cost here in the United states was out of the question.

    I once thought that my crew could build iDevices. Lots of experience and skil. But then I read what was required and I rethought my thoughts. Perhaps we can build them here. Then again, perhaps not.

    Apple and Fox have a complex relationship and certainly, if employees are being abused or mistreated, perhaps Apple should have a better look. Not sure what Apple could do if building the product takes so many resources.
     
  10. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    There is not enough information to go on. I'll support Apple if they are correct. Heck, why not. I seem to be the only proud Apple fanboy on the AF.:D

    I remember when much was made of some guy names Mike Rowe. He started a company called MikeRoweSoft, or some such. Microsoft claimed even though Mike Rowe could use his name, the way he wrote it was clearly an attempt to capitalize on MS.

    Or something like that. Correct me if my facts aren't.
     
  11. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    thank golly sakes you are free to express an opinion. I love Apple because they make great products and they are a largely decent American company millions of people depend on for their income.

    I guess you hate Apple, as is your right. Just understand I think you are wrong!
     
  12. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    Apparently, in Polish, Apple is Jabiko and Jabiko Cloud Consultants | Cloud Computing / Data Storage / Virtualization is a cloud storage service.

    I would bet the yanks in sunny Cali want no such thing. I would guess Apple is all about diversity. Or I am up in the air on that.
     
  13. SaleenFiend

    SaleenFiend Android Enthusiast
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    I mean I agree if the deli is blatantly riding the Apple trademark. Also, like you said I agree the article doesn't give enough information. As I pointed out here it's just the domain "A" with Polish address of ".pl"

    Also, I'm worried about the Foxconn scandal because it could affect other manufacturers from Apple.
     
  14. ari-free

    ari-free Android Expert

    Wow


    The undercover story by the Shanghai Evening Post reporter paints a grim picture. About workers&#8217; living quarters, he writes, &#8220;The whole dormitory smells like garbage when I walk in.&#8221; He adds that when he opened his closet, &#8220;lots of cockroaches crawl out from inside and the bed sheets that are being distributed to every new workers are full of dirt and ashes.&#8221; His job at the factory: marking four spots on the back plate of an iPhone 5 with an oil-based paint pen. The marks had to be within 5 millimeters of the designated points and he was expected to complete five plates every minute. Supervisors repeatedly reprimanded the journalist for failing to place the marks accurately.
    The journalist&#8217;s all-night shift lasted 10 hours with only one break for dinner at 11pm. When the shift ended at 6 AM, supervisors exhorted the workers to put in two hours of overtime, for a wage of just $4. The journalist describes a worker who couldn&#8217;t take the pressure: &#8220;A new worker who sat opposite me became exhausted and laid down for a short while,&#8221; he writes. &#8220;The supervisor has noticed him and punished him by asking him to stand at one corner for 10 minutes like the old school days.&#8221;
     
  15. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

    I would like to know the truth. Is Fox really that bad? Given where they are located, they might be. Given the apparent human rights abuses we have all read about, China could be a hell-hole for workers.

    Given that Fox make tons of money, perhaps the last thing any Chinese official wants to do is upset the (ahem) Apple Cart.

    Perhaps it is worse and the Yakusa helps keep things quiet. No, wait, that is Japan, isn't it.

    Perhaps if Apple insisted on changes, the cost of iDevices could go up.

    And perhaps Android cell makers use Fox so the Android fans that point out the problems with Apple/Foxconn should shut the heck up. I do not know who else uses Fox, but my guess is, some/many Android makers use Fox as well.
     
  16. Bob Maxey

    Bob Maxey Android Expert

     
  17. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    Conditions are that bad. Apple has had PR trying to make gestures look like actions. The Apple insistence for change has been toothless.

    Foxconn also makes HP products. Haven't seen any Android devices on their list, but I haven't seen it all. I've heard that Sony and Acer Androids are produced by them, not sure though.

    I'm not sure that anyone should shut up and condone sweatshop conditions. Anywhere. Personally, I don't care if that applies to phones or sneakers or fountain pens, I don't think that any of us need to support that.

    I've been to very impoverished areas in Asia where fabrication facilities were clean, and the jobs were desirable.

    Foxconn is the way it is because they can get away with it.
     
  18. ari-free

    ari-free Android Expert


    And Apple wants their costs down for maximum profit
     
  19. EarlyMon

    EarlyMon The PearlyMon
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    They all do, yeah?
     
  20. ari-free

    ari-free Android Expert

    Not down to the bone.
     
  21. kevincott

    kevincott Android Expert

    All I can say is ... WOW ...
     
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