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Is 9/11 still a wound that hasn't healed?

Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by A.Nonymous, Aug 28, 2011.

  1. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Extreme Android User
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    So I'm on Google Plus and someone posts something about the 9/11 memorial opening up this year. Of course people jump in and criticize the planning/development of the memorial for taking 10 years. Personally, I think it's a well deserved and perfectly justified criticism. Anyway, people respond with comments like, "It's a real shame naysayers try to tarnish the memory of the lives that were lost, just to try to get attention for themselves."

    It's been ten years. The museum there still hasn't opened. There still seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding the memorial. It seems the memorial is bringing more division than unity IMO, yet you see people getting worked up just because someone voices that opinion. Is it me or does 9/11 seem like a wound that will never ever heal and will just fester forever?
     



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  2. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Android Expert

    I don't think it'll ever heal. I think it's more something that people just learn to live with. Up until 9/11, I was thinking America was pretty much the safest place to live, but not now. Granted, I'm older and more aware of worldly happenings...

    I think the best thing people can do to memorialize the loss is to not forget about it.
     
  3. Knewz

    Knewz Android Expert

    People don't want to heal. Americans need someone to be mad at so we can exuberate our awesome power to the world to show them we don't take no sh*t.
     
  4. Sue7M3

    Sue7M3 Well-Known Member

    The reason the WTC and memorial STILL aren't done is largely because of Larry Silverstein. He owns the land the WTC stood on and held up the rebuilding for YEARS because he was more interested in getting as much money as he could than in helping with the healing. He is scum.

    The rest of the blame is on the survivors' families who screamed and fought for years over every detail.

    It's a real shame and disgrace. We could really learn something from Oklahoma City and how they came together instead of fought and fought. They had the area cleaned up/rebuilt and a memorial in place in a year or so.
     
  5. Frisco

    Frisco =Luceat Lux Vestra=

    I'm having trouble with the word "wound" and "healing" about those attacks. To me it's in the genre of unfinished business, mainly because we weren't attacked by a country who we can defeat in war and that is that.

    We were attacked by an enemy that is faceless except for the big names in the mess, al Qaeda, Usama bin Laden, radical Islam, etc.. we were not attacked by Iraq, nor Afghanistan, etc.

    Previous huge issues were country bound, the Allies against the Axis, etc. This is very different, so the "festering wound" to me is about never really getting it taken care of like we did the Nazis and the invading Japanese, etc, and thus seems more like impossible to finish business.
     
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  6. but it is New York. it's what i expect from New York and New Yorkers. sad isn't it.
     
  7. Sue7M3

    Sue7M3 Well-Known Member

    You don't know New York or New Yorkers at all if you feel that way.

    (said as a proud New Yorker)
     
  8. A.Nonymous

    A.Nonymous Extreme Android User
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    I live in the Midwest and watching people bicker about the monument just saddens me and sickens me at the same time. I don't know if this is typical of New Yorkers or not as I've never lived there and haven't visited the east coast in many, many years. This is the perception I get from the Midwest looking at the east coast though. That the people there will bicker rather than actually do something.
     
  9. Steven58

    Moderator

    You guys got us wrong. 9/11 literally changed nyc. It made us a small town overnight. People are courteous to each other. Much more so than before. People help each other out. Too bad you have swallowed an inaccurate stereotype.
     
  10. Sue7M3

    Sue7M3 Well-Known Member

    You're judging an entire city full of people over the actions of a narrow subsection. We aren't perfect, no city is, but we are generally good people looking out for one another and wanting the best for our city.
     
  11. Vehtemas

    Vehtemas Android Expert

    I wish we could be more like Sweden...

    Hate is not an answer to hate, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

    We need to forgive even those who hurt us, not give up and let them hurt us again of course, but realize that it happened and remember the lesson that it taught us.

    Look what overreaction has gotten us, we get felt up in our airports, we get listened to in illegal wire taps, and our freedoms get dissesembled every single day it seems...

    September 11th to me is just another day, yes a lot of people of my specific nationality died, but not a single one of them was someone I knew, why should it affect me any more than the millions that die in Africa every couple days? Or the hundreds of thousands who are starved in China.

    Humans need to realize that everyone is important, and to focus all our energy on 2-5 thousand people who died and ignore the millions of others is ridiculous in my eyes.

    We need to get rid of our animalistic tendencies and become a more advanced people.

    'Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.'
     
  12. Sue7M3

    Sue7M3 Well-Known Member

    Were you here in NYC, or in DC on 9/11? If you were it would not be just another day. For the families of the 3,000 people who were murdered that day, it will never be just another day. For people like my husband, who stood on the Staten Island Ferry and watched the planes crash into the towers, and then watched those towers, with three of his friends inside, fall, it will never be just another day.

    If you haven't I urge you to come here and go to Ground Zero. I used to work on the 54th floor of Tower 2. I was laid off a few years before 9/11. I was so bummed at losing that job-I loved it. However I see it very well may have saved my life. I'm not sure how many, if any, of the people I worked with survived.

    My husband took me to the WTC rooftop observatory for our first date. I can hardly bear to think of what the people who were up there the morning the planes hit must have gone through.

    I think it's ridiculous and just wrong to criticize those for who 9/11 will never be just another day. There is nothing wrong with remembering those who were murdered that day on each 9/11 that passes.
     
  13. Vehtemas

    Vehtemas Android Expert

    I never said do not remember it, in fact I said you SHOULD remember the lessons and things that have happened to us.

    I simply said we shouldn't go to war over them and kill even more people, I think we should act more like Sweden, surround those who were injured with happiness and love, not with vengeance and even more death.

    I know that it isn't going to be another day for people who were intimately involved in the event, just like the day my mother dies will never be just another day to me, but will be just another day to you.

    I am just sick and tired of pundits, religious people, and government people trying to use Ground Zero as some measure to increase their own wealth, power, or agenda.

    I am sorry that you lost people you loved in that horrendous event, but if they had died any other day of the week, in most any other event, half the world would never have known.

    I am not trying to be harsh, I am trying to say that every life should be held sacred and dear, not just those that die in 'special' events.

    *P.S.* It is also frustrating that so many people focus on this issue and yet ignore all the other major events in our lives. AKA the ground zero and mosque fiasco that congress was using to cover up their denial of first responder health care.
     
  14. 9to5cynic

    9to5cynic Android Expert

    I'm pretty upset over the first responder heath care business. That's pretty crappy to be blunt.
     
  15. Kelmar

    Kelmar Done by choice

    This thread is getting too personal and has started too far from the initial topic.

    Remember, everyone is allowed their own opinion. It may be right, it may be wrong... It is theirs to have however. We all need to be mindful and respectful of that.
     
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