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  1. jdub123

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    I'm not totally sure, but I think BusyBox was a real battery drain last time I installed it. I installed it to work with terminal emulator - maybe I did something wrong. I have since uninstalled both.

    To the point, I understand TitaniumBackUp requires BusyBox.

    At this point in time, I just want to freeze Bloatware.

    I routinely do Nandroid backups now. And I see the MyBackUp and AppListBackup do pretty much the same thing as Titanium....


    I feel like I've covered my backup bases.

    Am I missing out if I DON'T get Titanium - if not just to freeze bloatware?
    :thinking:
     

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    You could always just get a file explorer like root explorer and delete them from system app if you are sure you dont want them and it's safe to remove. Might want to put a copy on the sd card just in case
     
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    I think TB is a great tool and is heads and shoulders above everything else. it does so much more than just freeze boatware. I think your battery issues might be related to something other than busy box.
     
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    I am sure that TB is really something. Have heard nothing but good thing about it.

    One thing I did hear - and if anyone has experienced this, is that AppListBackup ( free in the Market ) will make a list of all of your EVO's apps and if you need to do a re-install of these, it will do it automatically.

    This compared to TB which will, I know save all apps and data and then re-install them if needed however you have to answer a prompt for each app when re-installing - it's not as automatic.

    Thanks for the replies.
     
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    It's automatic if you run a batch, may need pro for that though
     
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    You can get MyBackup Root for all your backup needs for free.
    And now you can get MyToolbox which can freeze applications. You DO NOT NEED Busy Box for either of these to work on your phone!
     
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    no TB back ups and reinstalls everything automatically. Also sends apps to sd card automatically.

    I think the app you are talking about is the one that just makes a list then you have to go in and hit ok for each app.
     
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    1) Busybox couldn't possibly have caused battery drain. Almost every person who has rooted their phone uses it. I'd recommend you reinstall it. You'll need it at some point down the road, I'm sure. If you have any battery drain, I'd recommend you use spare parts to see what is using your system resources.

    2) TB is certainly not the only option for backup. Others have been stated in this thread, already. You'll want something that does a full backup, though, like TB. MyBackup Root is a good option, I've heard.

    3) There are many, many, different ways of removing bloatware. To name a few:

    a) Flash a custom ROM. This will save you the trouble of doing it yourself. You'll almost always get busybox, as a result, as well. Of course, you have to take in to consideration what you potentially gain and/or lose from doing this. It really depends on a lot. If you want to stick with stock, this isn't for you unless you want to flash a close-to-stock ROM with bloatware removed.

    b) Remove bloatware from /system/app. This is not recommended, as you can very easily break things if you're not careful. Always make a nandroid backup before doing this. You'll need an explorer capable of running as root (Root Explorer) or, for a free option, use the terminal emulator. You need busybox, though. To do so, open the terminal, and type these commands:

    su
    mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock4 /system
    cd /system/app
    rm com.whatever

    A much better option, though is to:

    c) Rename apps. Basically, do the same as the above, but instead of removing them with a file explorer (or using rm in the terminal), just change the apk extension to .bak. So, for example, from the terminal, instead of the rm command, run this:

    mv com.whatever.apk com.whatever.bak

    That will ensure that the app will not run, and it will appear as though it's gone.

    d) If you want to do *exactly* what TB does (freeze bloatware) you can do this from the terminal emulator. I don't think you'd even need busybox. This is how you do it:

    su
    pm disable com.whatever

    It's as simple as that, and it will keep the app from running or showing up in your app drawer. To "unfreeze" the app, just run:

    su
    pm enable com.whatever

    This is as close to TB as you'll get, and it's free. Of course, it takes longer than doing it through TB, but it's ultimately the same (and, again, free :))

    e) If you tell me what you want to remove, I can make a flashable zip for you that will do the "rename" method above from recovery. The problem with doing this, normally, is that everybody wants something different, and it would be a pain to maintain a bunch of versions.
     
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    This is good to know.
     
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    Thank you very much for all of your replies.

    I have since disabled many automatic syncing services,
    disabled certain sound features and display features.

    Also, setting the mobile network off when not in use
    with data roaming features also.

    Along with a few other features, I have noticed a big
    difference...almost 24 hours and am almost down to zero.

    My usage has been light, but the difference is noticeable.

    As for freezing bloatware, I have yet to try it.

    The main bloatware I want to freeze ( not delete ) is the
    SPRINT stuff.

    I haven't found these in File Explorer yet, but when I do
    they will be the first to head north.

    At least now I know there are some options to boot the bloat.
     
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    They are in system/app btw
     
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    i used to use titanium but i stopped. i have drastically reduced the amount of apps on my phone. battery life is great now and so is performance
     
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    I was just wondering if you might tell why you stopped using TB.

    Did you get the use you wanted from it and it did all you wanted
    at the time and then didn't need it anymore?

    Sounds like it helped you zero in on what to de-bloat.

    That's kind of where I am at now.
     
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    I proceeded with d) above and found it to be very laborius.

    QUESTION: in APPLICATIONS, when I spot an ICON I want to freeze,
    are the binaries for these ALL in the /system/apps folder?

    What is the extension for these? I am sure it isn't .exe, or is it?

    The NAMING and IDENTIFICATION of these is a little tedious.

    It just seemed they weren't all in the folder and would be located somewhere else......
     
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    They are apk and most are in system/app or data/app
     
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    Yeah, it can be a pain, but it's a very powerful tool if you're will to take the time to use it properly. If you want to see all the packages on your system, run this:

    pm list packages

    If you want to see the same, but the location (/system/app or /data/app), run this:

    pm list packages -f

    If you already know the name of the package, but want the location, like above, run this:

    pm path com.whatever

    If you've already disabled some packages, and want to see what you've disabled, run this:

    pm list packages -d


    It's really a powerful tool, but it's most useful to people who are comfortable at the command line, and know a little bit of bash scripting. When used with that, you can mass disable/enable whatever you want, which can, theoretically, be the fastest way to do things. If that's not your thing, then this probably isn't for you, and that's perfectly fine. It's just one option. It is, however, pretty much the only way to "freeze" apps outside of using TB.
     
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