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ISP WIN for United Kingdom!

Discussion in 'The Lounge' started by IOWA, Apr 26, 2010.

  1. IOWA

    IOWA Mr. Logic Pants
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    UK ISP Says It Will Not Follow Digital Economy Bill Rules | Techdirt
     

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  2. TheBrit

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    If the rest of the ISP community follow this lead then the Digital Economy Bill will have to be repealed because enforcement will become impossible.

    Here's hoping....:)
     
  3. 3devious

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    I got your back, people of the UK. I'd buy service from one of those companies even though I don't live there in support of that.
     
  4. IOWA

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    Lets hope this sets a precendent...
     
  5. Caloy

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    Comcast should take notice and follow suit. :)
     
  6. IOWA

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    Comcast, Afee&fee, VZW... I wish fios would hit the area. Comcost is ok here, but for the same price I can get more upstream bandwidth.
     
  7. mpw

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  8. TheBrit

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    Yes...but it should only be with a warrant or court order. There are cases in the UK of power-mad officials using anti-terrorism legislation to snoop on people putting their bins out on the wrong day. It's not about having nothing to hide if you are innocent blah blah blah put is IS about keeping these idiots in check.
     
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    Yay, you always bring good news about the DE Bill, IOWA.
     
  12. gordon green

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    the general public have been paying more attenetion to the election than the Digital Economy Bill and so they have been tryign to get it in on the low key but its in a state and should be properly sorted out
     
  13. Snow_Fox

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    Erm.. I am not saying I want artist to be stolen from here.. but, the only reason this is an issue is not because of the artist.. its because of people like the RIAA..

    If people (besides the artist) didn't stand to make money off these laws.. it wouldn't even be an issue..

    The only reason this bothers me as much as it does is because, child porn seems like a much better target for these kinda laws.. and people are worried over the 9 cents a song artist lose.
     
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  15. TheBrit

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    I would certainly agree with that.
     
  16. 3devious

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    What kind of sentences do pirates vs. child abusers get over there?
     
  17. TheBrit

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    Pirates not much - usually a fine. Child abusers: anything from a slap on the wrist to 10 years...depends on the sentencing judge.

    It turned out my daughters piano teacher was a pedo - but he preferred boys so lucky escape for my daughter. He got 6 years.
     
  18. 3devious

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    More like lucky for him... what would have happened to him had it been your daughter? ;)
     
  19. Snow_Fox

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    All I am going to say on this issue is that it annoys me people highlight how the artist suffer when you pirate, yet the honest truth of the matter is, if artist were the only ones suffering the riaa wouldn't give two ****s..
    I do realize they are two entirely different sets of laws however, it bothers me how the media always warns parents about "online child predators".. yet the media always covers laws "fighting piracy". My point is the same. If the RIAA wasn't making money itself off of this issue, they wouldn't care at all about the artist, the industry or anything else.
    Great idea! lets let child predators get lesser charges for copy right infringement!...

    Or even worse..

    The charges for internet piracy can be worse than pedophilia and we can catch all pedophiles in a copyright infringement ordeal.

    Either way its horribly backwards :/.

    If you disagree with me feel free to ignore my post altogether.. However, my current view of the RIAA is more or less like the mafia.. artist pay "protection money".
     
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  21. if i lived in the uk, i'd switch to this "talk talk" isp in a heartbeat, being sure to let my previous isp know why i'm changing providers - enough of these reports would probably make them consider joining in on the "rebellion" :)
     
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  23. Anthony1

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    Or maybe it's just a principled stand against an organisation that's nothing more than a legalised protection racket.

    If publishing companies were using the same logic as RIAA, they'd be hanging around outside school gates to prosecute kids swapping comic books in the playground.
     
  24. mpw

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  25. probably in no practical way, but it is an invasion of privacy none the less

    yes, i agree that proper authorities should have access to the usage data when appropriate, but this law seems to be about rightsholders having access to that data at their every whim

    pay attention to this part of the statement:
    this is not a license to do what ever the hell you want without consequences
     

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