Hi I've tried the chat link on the page from a few different systems both running firefox and get a java error. I get the same error off Chrome and IE8's being super elusive and not loading the java at all. on IE it's me not finding the manual over ride for java to allow it after I tell it to run the active X control) I'm not sure this is due to the oddities I encounter because I'm trying from Win XP64 and Win7 or not. I thought Someone might want to look at it. -Edit I took out the part about the IRC client because I finally found the chat channel.