Root [KERNEL] Franco Kernel Discussion (r68)

[jhawkkw]

I'm not really sure. My first instinct would be no because I know faux kernel isn't compatible with cm11. I'm actually caught in a limbo state because I want to run cm11 for voice+, but my kernel of choice doesn't work with it. First world problems

 

[p-bOt]

Why aren't any custom kernels compatible with CM anymore? I mean CM has a great kernel stock but what gives?

 

[jhawkkw]

Why aren't any custom kernels compatible with CM anymore? I mean CM has a great kernel stock but what gives?

I've wanted to know the official reason as well, but searches come up empty and asking just results in flaming on xda.

 

[p-bOt]

Kinda sucks. Franco kernel "plus" works with CM11 on the nexus 4 but Idk if the developer is going to support the N5 or not. Hope so

 

[Rxpert83]

Why aren't any custom kernels compatible with CM anymore? I mean CM has a great kernel stock but what gives?

They no longer use a purely AOSP base for the ROM.

They now use a CAF (Qualcomm's open source) base and kernels based on AOSP won't work. The timing of this change depends on the device, but occurred within the last year

CAF is less optimized than the AOSP code built specifically for our device.

Kinda sucks. Franco kernel "plus" works with CM11 on the nexus 4 but Idk if the developer is going to support the N5 or not. Hope so

Its cm inc's decision that makes other kernels not compatible

Some devs don't want to maintain multiple kernels just because one (rather large) dev group went off and did their own thing. On a nexus device it doesn't really make sense to switch to a less optimized base. On non-nexus devices it isnt AS big of a deal, but when we already have optimized AOSP available its a step backwards if you ask me.

 

[p-bOt]

So...(at the risk of offending someone) Cyanogenmod is a "step backwards" in your opinion?

 

[Rxpert83]

So...(at the risk of offending someone) Cyanogenmod is a "step backwards" in your opinion?

Not at all . The rom itself is a very popular ROM with some great additions to stock AOSP. I ran it quite a bit on my S3.

IMO (this is all my opinion) moving to a CAF base on a nexus device when we already have fully available source was a bad decision. It fragmented the nexus ROMs/kernels into CAF or AOSP, with seemingly no good reason for doing so.

Its not as big of deal on non nexus devices because they don't have AOSP support, so every "aosp" ROM is based on cyanogenmods caf base. Therefore no fragmentation.

I've never seen CMs reasoning for this decision.

 

[p-bOt]

I see. Well I happen to like it but I dot know much of the facts haha. I don't have as much as time as I did back in the GNex days haha. Thank you for your knowledge though.

 

[Rxpert83]

Franco just added cm (and derivative) compatibility with r20

 

[p-bOt]

Super stoked about this! Trying it out now!

 

[Rxpert83]

Gave their newest nightly a try but my superuser permissions were all screwy. Back to cataclysm for me. Hope the dev pushes out 4.2.2 soon

 

[NYCHitman1]

Gave their newest nightly a try but my superuser permissions were all screwy. Back to cataclysm for me. Hope the dev pushes out 4.2.2 soon

Their as in CyanogenMod?

 

[Rxpert83]

Their as in CyanogenMod?

Yeah, was interested in seeing how they approached all the changes to KK. Small things like whether they'd keep trebuchet or switch over to GEL, Ect.

 

[jhawkkw]

I only use CM for Voice+, do you know of another rom that would be compatible with Franco or Faux besides CM that uses their Voice+ code?

 

[p-bOt]

What is voice+?

 

[jhawkkw]

What is voice+?

Voice+ is an app with some framework modifications that allow one to send/receive Google Voice texts using the Google Voice number itself in any messaging app you want. If you've never used the Google Voice app for texting, let me just tell you it's atrocious as far as organization goes. Using a standard messaging app fixes this.

 

[Rxpert83]

I only use CM for Voice+, do you know of another rom that would be compatible with Franco or Faux besides CM that uses their Voice+ code?

Is voice+ closed source? They've got IP to protect now that they went incorporated.


I've only seen it on cm

 

[jhawkkw]

Is voice+ closed source? They've got IP to protect now that they went incorporated.


I've only seen it on cm

I saw it in other roms in the past that had some cm base like pacman rom or Eclipse. I don't know if it had since gone closed though.

 

[Rxpert83]

I saw it in other roms in the past that had some cm base like pacman rom or Eclipse. I don't know if it had since gone closed though.

I may have just not noticed it since I haven't really ever used my gvoice number.

EDIT: you are correct, its open

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_VoicePlus

 

[jhawkkw]

I may have just not noticed it since I haven't really ever used my gvoice number.

EDIT: you are correct, its open

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_VoicePlus

Yeah, that's good to see, however I think there is some system level changes necessary to make it work, though I could be wrong.

 

[Rxpert83]

Pushed r21:

* Added KEXEC MultiRom patch
* Severe improvements to interactive to make it more intelligent during high CPU load for long periods of time
* Merged a series of patches from upstream to improve the kernel threads management per each cpu
* Improved the hotplug driver algorithm
* Merged two patches from showp to decrease the minimum brightness values

Have fun!

happy flashing

 

[p-bOt]

Could you explain in better detail what the KEXEC patch is? I read up on it in XDA but didn't quite understand lol.

 

[Rxpert83]

Could you explain in better detail what the KEXEC patch is? I read up on it in XDA but didn't quite understand lol.

Read the other thread I started today on multirom.
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?p=6331456

It basically makes it compatible with that

 

[4ubest]

How do you get the speaker boost settings to remain after phone is shut off OR do they need to be reset each time phone is charged.. The fast USB charge seems to stick...

 

[Hook]

How do you get the speaker boost settings to remain after phone is shut off OR do they need to be reset each time phone is charged.. The fast USB charge seems to stick...

If you long press the setting, a box comes up with a description and a "set on boot" check box. I think checking that box will do it.