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  1. Rgarner

    Rgarner Android Expert
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    Well, since I can't get Nook to work and I hate that other one, I started looking for something else. I found Kobo and downloaded it. It seems to be ok, but how do I get the other two's books to it? Kobo seems to be looking for them in the phone, but they're probably elsewhere, maybe in the cloud.
     


  2. mikedt

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    Which cloud? Where you logged into your Kobo account?

    I've looked at the Kobo app, but as I don't have an account with them, I couldn't do anything with it.
     
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  3. Hadron

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    Where do you keep your books? I think we need to know that to have a chance.

    Personally I never download ebooks directly to an app (or ereader device) - I always sideload them, so I always know where they are, and manage them through an app on my computer (Calibre). This also allows me to change the format if I need to, and use a plug in to remove DRM (which is legal in my country for personal use, as long as you don't redistribute afterwards. Check local laws first).
     
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  5. Rgarner

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    I have no idea where they may be stored. I just know I have some titles from both, paid for and free, and I cannot get at them. It's frustrating. How would I sideload them? As it happens, I did download Calibre but I'm not sure how to use it.
     
  6. Hadron

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    I've never used Calibre with a phone. I do have a Kindle, which has had WiFi turned on exactly once (to activate the device) and off ever since. I connect it to the computer, fire up Calibre, then tell it to send books to the device - that's it. I download books from different sources, but even when I get them from Amazon I see no reason why they should know when/how often/how far I've read, even less what other books I put on my device, and so I'll always download to a computer and sideload to the device.

    With a phone I'd just copy to the phone's internal storage and tell an ebook reader to import them (though I don't really use a phone for books - I have some on there, but can go all year without opening the app).

    So I guess you are talking about a Nook app. Which raises the nasty possibility that the app stores the books in their "private" storage (/data/data/<app package name>) where you can't see them except by using the app. That's the sort of control-freaky way these outfits work, but will be very difficult for you if the app no longer functions.

    It certainly seems to be how "that other one" works: I just downloaded a book to the app on my phone (for the first time) and can confirm that it doesn't appear in the "kindle" folder on the internal storage, nor could I find any option to export it (these corporations want to control your access to the material you have "purchased", so this is no surprise. It's also part of why I refuse to play their game). If B&N take the same attitude then the solution would be to download another copy of the material you have purchased to a different device, except that if they are gone that won't be an option.

    This is another reason why I don't buy into the "keep your media in our cloud" business model that so many push these days: if I pay for limited-time access ("rent") that's one thing, but if I buy something I'll have my own copy in a portable format that I can play on any device whenever and for as long as I want, and if that's not on offer they don't get my money. If the corporation retain control of how you can store and use the material that also means that when they can control when you can no longer use it, either directly (these corporations have withdran DRM-protected books after people had bought them, rendering them unreadable) or indirectly by discontinuing the service, leaving you unable to access your content (which sounds like your problem here).

    I don't ever rely on cloud storage for the same reason. It may be convenient, and I use it on occasion, but I never rely on it: if you haven't also got your own copy under your control then exactly the same can happen whenever they decide that it's no longer in their interest to keep your stuff or to let you access it.
     
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  7. Rgarner

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    I tried that blue link, which got stuck maybe halfway. I reloaded it with the same result. If Barnes and Noble won't support Nook any more, they should just admit it and give us some way to rescue our titles and read them with Kobo or whatever. They're almost making Jeffy's company look good, and that should be impossible. As the t shirt says, the wrong Amazon is burning...
     
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  8. Rgarner

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    I finally got Nook to work. All I had to do was wait more than 27 minutes on the phone and speak with somebody probably in another country (and follow the provided instructions). What I did was get rid of it and open an apk I already had. I've got my Nook stuff back but how do I convert those kindle things? How do I use Calibre?
     

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