learned my lesson

[boathead]

i bought a clone s4. didn't expect all that much as far as quality goes, but i at least expected to receive the display resolution and RAM advertised.

nope.

it is still a pretty cool device for the price i guess. i opened a dispute with paypal, though i doubt it will lead to anything.

i was warned, but couldn't resist. this is why i never have any spare money. lmao.

 

[funkylogik]

Lol go on... how much did u spend on it?
Have you ran a benchmark app on it? (Just to give us a laugh lol. Try Quadrant on it and post a screeny) :beer:

 

[Borrego97]

we need pictures!

 

[funkylogik]

Yeah itl be a good warning for others

 

[boathead]

i'll try to get some pics up later.

the cost was 180, and was supposed to be 2gb ram and 1280 display.

i will say for anyone who goes down this route to go thru paypal. because just a few hours ago i put in a claim, and i just agreed to a $30 refund. paypal is the bomb. i might have been able to do better, but i had no confidence that i'd win if i pushed too hard.

i have learned the antutu and a cpu checker somehow are fooled by the device. it shows an exynos octa. yea boi.

 

[boathead]

 

[boathead]

yeah, that's right. i've got a kick ass device.

now if i can just get the thing to hold a charge. srs. haha

 

[funkylogik]

Well it benchmarks pretty well man! So how much did u pay minus the $30?

 

[funkylogik]

My quadcore s3 @1.4ghz View attachment 58399
It scores higher on quadrant but you can fool quadrant by running it with your ram full :thumbup:

 

[boathead]

150 shipped is the final cost to me.

 

[funkylogik]

Cool.How does it perform with games etc man? Did u get the full 16 (11)gb storage?
I suppose the main thing is you wont be able to update it or use a custom rom

 

[chanchan05]

4100 is pretty low for a quad core. My dual core Tab can score at 4000 after a reboot. Did you get documentation on its real hardware?

 

[funkylogik]

Yeah on quadrant it scores really low but check out that antutu score mate!

 

[nickdalzell]

I got a cheap $60 Trio tablet that actually works well despite it being a cheap Chinese tablet, it has the usual low-ppi screen but is smooth and holds a decent charge, and can be used as a WiFi phone. they're not all bad, even though they shortcut screen quality among others. Download root checker. A lot of cheap phones and tablets are pre-rooted and make excellent guinea pigs for aspiring devs.

 

[boathead]

i don't believe any of it. there is too much evidence that some sort of coding tricks the benchmark analyzers. i read on the antutu sit e that they are struggling with this themselves.... in other words these apps cannot be relied on to ferret out the truth.

i received no documentation, and quite frankly i have no idea what i have under the hood.

it handles plex and netflix well. speakers are ok. display is about the same as my gnexus. i don't do gaming...unless you count chess...which it handles without a stutter.

 

[nickdalzell]

Hey if it doesn't reboot by itself and doesn't crash then I don't see the problem. Even a fake Rolex keeps pretty good time

 

[boathead]

Download root checker. A lot of cheap phones and tablets are pre-rooted and make excellent guinea pigs for aspiring devs.

mine was not pre-rooted. took me awhile to get it rooted. but i have a few apps that are struggling with it... link2sd for instance...i get the superuser request, but then the app hangs up indefinitely.

oh well. i have in fact learned my lesson. i sort of like knowing what i have, and quite frankly, i don't know what i have.

 

[funkylogik]

Lol really true guys
i have one question though mate.. if you were gona buy a cloned phone, why not get a good looking one like the Xperia Z or HTC One? Lol sorry samsung owners

 

[boathead]

the htc one would have pissed me off even more...cuz the bottom speaker is a dummy. haha.

anyway, this is what is written on the antutu site:

We have received multiple scores query of Chinese Pads, which including Ainol, Ramos. These products have been modified the scores on RAM and display any scores they want on AnTuTu Benchmark. The real score is only half of the score it displays. This behavior has severely impacted the accuracy of AnTuTu Benchmark. We hope all the dealers can query the test reports when test the performance of Chinese Android devices. Only by this way can such cheating behavior be terminated.

 

[funkylogik]

Yeah it seems like theyve fiddled antutu because its so widely used and hopefully the quadrant score is more accurate. This is my s3 at 1.4 ghz on quadrant View attachment 58408 but 400 is pretty damn good for a $150 phone lol

 

[chanchan05]

Lol really true guys
i have one question though mate.. if you were gona buy a cloned phone, why not get a good looking one like the Xperia Z or HTC One? Lol sorry samsung owners

Have you seen the Samsung fakes? They're so ugly that even me who actually kinda like the Samsung design actually abhors them.

 

[mikedt]

I know about Samsung S4 knock-offs. Yeh some are highly specced, some are absolute garbage. Never mind the Antutu numbers, I think there's a serious safety issue with them with the front glass. Friend of mine in the UK bought a Star S4. Front glass broke within weeks. It's not gorilla glass, it's ordinary window glass, and very thin as well. Which means these things can be potentially dangerous.

If you got KIRF S4, or any knock-off for that matter, put a screen protector on it, it might save you getting shards of broken glass in your face.

The KIRF Samsung I have myself is actually plastic on the front. Which means it's not dangerous, but is rather prone to scratching.

 

[Hadron]

The interesting one to me is that it seems to have tricked CPU-Z. Because I don't believe for one second that there's really a Exynos Octa in that.

Funny the efforts people will go to.

 

[boathead]

one further thing that just occurred to me.

antutu came pre-installed on the device. as a system app. so i'm thinking of course they fiddled with it, and the test it ran was simply a video or something pre-installed.

so i deleted it with root uninstaller, but the device won't let me now download antutu from the play store.

so something is up for sure.

 

[funkylogik]

Lol is Cpu-z a system app too. Want me to put antutu on dropbox for u?
Edit. Scrap that lol. Dropbox is being a **** (but thats another thread)