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  1. tds187

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    so, i think my post was moved or whatnot

    but this thread is abuot lg optimus m, not overclocking in general


    so, when you say your OC'd are you running 100% 24/7 at 700-800mhz? or are you scaling from 245-7xx/8xx mhz?

    if so, what is the difference of just using cpu master and running at 600-600mhz with performance/on demand scaling?


    what id like to know is , what your running and how, and if its like a computer whats the point of me oc'ing the phone

    if people say its more stable at 700~800mhz but thats not the processors target speed, arent i just killing my phone daily? im interested in getting a rom installed but id need some personal assistance, i also dont want to overclock my phone so that in 6months the cpu fries and i actually have to buy another phone


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    most people run their oc scaled. you would only run it full out for benchmarking or burn in.

    Overclocking has nothing at all to do with lifetime of electronics, the main thing is heat. If you pay attention to temps you will never have to worry about overclocking decreasing the life of a cpu. You can use setcpu to scale down the processor when it reaches a set temp.

    I'm running an athalon x2 4800 that I bought when it was almost top of the line(i'm talking YEARS ago) and it's been overclocked to the max since day one. It's hooked up to a peltier cooler and never reaches 90f.

    Overvolting however could lessen lifespan even with temps kept in check, but we don't have an overvolted kernel so your safe there...

    I wouldn't worry about overclocking decreasing lifespan unless you live somewhere hot.

    I've been running an OC kernel ever since reppard compiled the very first one.
     
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    any chance you want to help me install a rom? :p im not sure which roms and why, i never have enough time to search adn read what i need

    but on the otherhand overclocking cpu's from computers and phones are different and for both they do decrease the lifespan of the cpu... if you overclock your 600mhz fone to 900mhz, ur definately taking away lifespan alwaysss
     
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    While I totally disagree about overclocking decreasing lifespan, :p . I will assist you in the installation of a rom. What exactly is the status of your phone? Is it rooted? What version is it on, 2.2, 2.2.1, 2.2.2?
     
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    What is a normal temp for the battery??
     
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    Mine says 23c and it's sitting here doing nothing but it's hot as hell in my house. I'd try and keep it under 110f...
     
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    Yes please help me.

    i guess im interested in that sense rom? or joneidy's whichever it is since people syaing its the most stable

    also, overclocking does reduce lifespan its a fact man :D
     
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    If u still need help I can help u as well its very easy. After u do it so many times :)
     
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    I got him up and running on a CM7 rom last night.
     
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    I know cm7 is based on gingerbread but how cone it doesn't have the layout like gingerbread?
     
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    I too have a couple of computers with the x2 cpu's, got a 3800 and a 4400 both run overclocked, though these days they run less overclock then they used to. the 4400 is less then 5% overclock and runs my home server. the 3800 is running 2.45 from 2.0 stock and is a media pc.
    My main computer is the conroe dual core 6600 intel and that runs 3.3ghz and that is decreased from 3.46 ( I used to live in North dakota and temps were much less there)
    I too disagree, if your not running them at 90% or more of their ability, and every chip has different ability you will not heat them enough to damage them in any significant way.
    I have run all my computers overclocked I am still running a 2004 cpu rated at 2.0 ghz its been running 2.45 for 7 years now. I dont know how much time you think the cpu is rated for but reality is they dont expect those things to last 5 years.

    My home server, the cpu is the least overclockable one I have owned by the way it has run at 2.4 from a stock of 2.2 for 5 years now, before that I think I had it clocked at 2.44 for a year.
     
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    I used to run SETI@Home on overclocked p4's 24/7 for years.

    I have fried 2 processors over the years. One was a p3 with an experimental overvolt. The other was an Athalon 64 that had a crappy heatsink and the fan took a dump, it was on a budget mobo that just let it cook...
     
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    Yeah so I've found a few annoying
    Issues on cm... when drag window farther than it goes it pulls some weird gradient colors and crashes in landscape
    Tux undacova ;) foneruns alotbetter at 787mhz


    Over clocking will always decrease lifespan, ur overaccelerating past the safe factory standard that offers a the lifespan.. its like cigarettes and turbos in a car....u might still live a long time smokingbut spotless than if u wouldn't.... thecarwill b faster but everytime use liturgy slowly killing g that motor till the seals wear outvalves crackandit blows!!

    Sorryfor the typos, the cm keyboard. Blows xD
     
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    not the best example for a few reasons.
    1, as with anything the factory has "safe" limits that are well below problematic limits, you could run faster and still be below those problematic limits. The factory has to produce for the lowest common denominator and that means all the cpus are tested for stable running at the desired clock speed, let me clarify that, a few test cpu's out of a batch are tested.
    2, your auto turbo example, if that was the case why are there factory equipped turbo cars?
     
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    That doesn't take into account how cpus are produced.

    cpu are made on a big ass wafer many at a time, theoretically they are all the same on the wafer. However they all come out in different grades, the most pristine ones will be say the 5000 series, then the 4800 then the 4600... The problem with that is a chip on each side of a perfect chip might have a slight defect so all 3 will be classified as 4800.

    Now if the manufacturer expects these to last at least 5 years, that means the pristine chips running the highest clockspeed will last at least 5 years. Now If I find a 4600 chip that runs stable at 5000 speeds, it's overclocked life would be NO different than a standard 5000 speed chip. Thus no net loss in life expectancy...

    Cpu's will outlast their useful lifespan if kept cool, clockspeed is irrelevant.
     
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    so does anyone know why when u drag the screen on CM7.1 past where the page dispays or the app shows it starts getting lighter and doing that weird gradient effect?

    look - i get what you guys are saying, im not sure if you work with computers or just mess with them for fun but

    yeah you can overclock and be safe

    the fact of the matter is overclocking at any speed decreases the lifespan period.
    if overclocking couldnt hurt your processor, your processor wouldn't burn out and die if you overclock it past a certainpoint


    its like arguing with a doctor that smoking doesnt kill you just because your living.

    were both correct, except you need to acknowledge and accept that if you DIDNT overclock your processor, and kept it at the same temperature, it would last longer tha if you didnt.... its just a plain fact

    its not called SAFEclocking, its called OVERclocking :p
    dont want to argue about stuff that can be proven, everyone has opinions, but a fact is a fact
     
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    Sorry dont have an answer about the screen problem, but I think your missing the point we are talking about on overclocking.

    The manufacture has a specified lifetime and we have cpu's that have outlived that and they are overclocked, I dont know what other proof is needed.

    However as undacova has said when they bin a 5000 cpu down to 4800 because a few of the test cpus only held the 4800 standard that means that some of those chips were still capable of 5000 standards. but as I said they dont test each and every chip.
     
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    Your talking about the overscroll effect, it's not that bad but you cn disable it by going to settings>CyanogenMod settings> Interface > Overscroll Effect
     
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    Stop arguing with these people, they just helped you install a ROM and they have helped develop this community that without, you wouldn't even be able to overclock (or do anything else to your phone). :p

    The thing is based on what I have read, I'm not 100% (correct me if I am wrong), when you overclock your phone you are reaching YOUR processors true speed. Like someone else in this thread said the 600mHz is the lowest common denominator, when you go over what your processor can handle it just reboots doing no damage to your hardware. So really with overclocking you are just getting your moneys-worth :D
     
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    calm down mate :) we are conversating, i dont see why youd say were arguing...

    they are sharing opinions and i am sharing opinions based on facts. id rather understand why they dont think of something the right way and help them learn something

    yes they did help me, but sometimes people who help you with something have no clue or idea about something else... example, im clueless about modding phones, but i know more than you can imagine about a computer in and out

    they know i appreciate theyre help, im not making fun of them or condescending imjust trying to get them to understand my view

    i know they think overclocking doesnt harm their computer cpu because theyve pushed their cpu speed minimally and it never fried but, my whole point is, really OVERclock your cpu.. a 2ghz to 3.0ghz or 3.4ghz and let me know if your cpu makes it 1-2years :p



    luck isnt a stable factor
    with that attitude your the type of guy who goes to the doctor and has smoked for 25 years and still argues with the doctor that your healthy.

    overclocking is not safeclocking, im not sure if you ever earned a degree in college with computers but, jsut because you dosomething and it works, doesnt change the fact of the matter

    overclocking your cpu = takes life away, if you cant accept this, its not my problem... overclock your 2ghz cpu to 3.8ghz and show me that it outlives its life and ill buy you a new car
     
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    When I said arguing I didn't mean it like that. I too was just trying to get my view across and I'm not saying yours is wrong :)

    By the way were you able to solve the screen overscroll effect?
     
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    LOL.

    Just to try and put the overclocking thing to rest(which it prolly won't). I have still in my possession my very first Windows PC, it's a Packard Bell 486 that came stock running 25mhz, I overclocked it within the first 2 months I had it to 33mhz. It still runs. It hasn't been relevant for 10 years...

    I also have my first XP box that I bought in August of 2001 before the actual release of XP. It Has a 1.5ghz p4, overclocked day one to 1.8 and later to 2.0ghz after better cooling. Still runs. Barely maintains relevancy, the kids use it for youtube and flash games. This box ran SETI@home for about 5 years straight...

    Theoretical "facts" don't always matter in the real world. With proper cooling you will not reduce the lifespan of a cpu to the point of failure before it's usefulness was up, with only clockspeed changes.

    I would fully agree overvolting starts to lessen lifespan almost immediately. But again if you shorten a 20yr lifespan in half does it matter in PC land?

    If my 10 year old p4 blows up tonight would you still say that my overclock shortened its life? I wouldn't... That damn box has had more HDDs and PSUs thrown at it then its worth...
     
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    Just to add: I'm offering facts based on my experience not opinions and not theory .
     
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    I have right now a core2duo Intel cpu in my main computer it is a E6550 it has a stock clock speed of 2.3ghz I have it set at 3.3ghz right now, and when I lived in north dakota, where the temps were colder I had it set at 3.45ghz I have had this since 6/16/2008, it was overclocked to 3.45 from day one until 08/2010, then 3.3 from 08/2010 til now, still running very strong.
     
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    Not that I expect much from this but here is couple of images.

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