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    Have you looked at the router's settings? If it's set to firewall the Wi-Fi segment off from the Ethernet segment, you'll need to change that setting. Before you do, make sure that your Wi-Fi radios are set to their highest security (WPA2 and up) levels, so nobody can get to your computer from the Wi-Fi side.

    If the phone can see the computer's name, it might be some other problem. I don't know what kind of support Winamp has, but it might be a good idea to try that route for help.
     

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    Winamp and Spotify.
     
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    I'm quite into hi-fi so my take might be a bit different. The choice depends a lot on whether you want a music playing service (so streaming) or if you want a music library manager (to play your own files).

    Apple iTunes is absolutely useless because it can't play hi-res audio files. When last used, it didn't even recognise FLAC files. So that's out even before considering the fact that it's dog-slow and has some issue with duplicates that, when last I used it, had not been fixed. It looks pretty but has weird navigation and too many issues. It works well if you have an Apple phone and are much more interested in convenience than sound quality. And if you're prepared to pay Apple prices for music files. The integration works very nicely.

    Media Monkey is very functional and the ability (with the Android app) to stream from your PC e.g. consider that thing's library as the phone's library is very good. It can also convert files on the fly for different devices. For instance FLAC to WMA if you want to use it as a DNLA server to output to something that can't manage decent resolutions or which only recognises certain file types.

    However that needs the software to be running on a PC. It doesn't work when the software isn't running. The "Install as a Service" thing just doesn't seem to work.

    And it has various bugs not least when dragging and dropping a file to play when on a PC it has a tendency to lock up for ages for no apparent reason. It seems to have had these bugs for years. It is not a streaming system.

    FooBar is very lightweight and very good for streaming to an external DAC especially if you want to play MQA files. Most would find it lightweight and dull to look at. Again just a player.

    Spotify was, when last I looked, very poor in the sound quality department. But then if your primary listening device is a mobile phone and cheap earbuds it isn't going to make that much difference if any. I can't comment on it as I haven't used it in years.

    Tidal has 16 bit 44.1k (so CD quality) by default and in particular MQA but it's not an app for managing your own audio files nor is it a replacement for your own music collection because things can simply vanish from it at any time and it doesn't have that much obscure stuff on there. It's a streaming service only.

    But it does have MQA which sounds absolutely phenomenal with decent material and blows CD and 24 bit 192k into the weeds. (Specifically, it fixes a type of distortion inherent to digital audio called "ringing"). Only relevant if you have an MQA DAC. Which means it's not relevant for mobile phone listeners. And the library of MQA material is very limited. Sound quality just isn't much of a priority for enough people these days.

    Roon integrates with your own library and with streaming services so provides a hybrid model. It also has good multi-room output features.
     
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    But doesn't MQA(Master Quality Authenticated) require some quite expensive (Meridian) home equipment to use it though, like $2000 or something? Also Tidal isn't an option for me, because I'm not in the United States.
     
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    We have Tidal in the UK. Maybe you need to set up a VPN :)

    I have one of the Meridian Explorer 2 DACs which TBH I just use as a headphone amplifier connected to my PC. Most of my listening is with vinyl (very good turntable, arm and cartridge) on the 'main system' although I do occasionally plug it into the laptop and play stuff through that through the amp & speakers.

    That £200 DAC (might be cheaper now) playing MQA walks all over much more expensive DACs playing CDs or CD quality streams of the same thing. The difference isn't subtle. To my ears anyway.

    There are other MQA DACs but they're quite rare. Oddly enough one is indeed made in the US by a company called Brooklyn. Suspect they ship worldwide. There has been some interest in that in certain circles. It's quite expensive.

    For everyone else's benefit: MQA is an algorithmic implementation that needs to operate throughout the digital chain including the DAC which is the bit in your device that converts digital signals back to analogue that you can hear. So it has to be implemented in the DAC.

    The DAC is the "chip" in your device/phone that does that bit.

    Some phones - I think Sony ones - have MQA support built-in. But then phones rarely have high-quality audio stages.

    I believe you can buy MQA files outright but they're scarce.

    I can see why it hasn't exactly "taken off". You'd be hard-pressed to hear much difference with cheap headphones, people aren't terribly interested in sound quality, and as a result and compounding this the library of MQA music is highly limited. It remains esoteric despite being the most significant invention in audio in decades.
     
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    I already use a VPN, mainly because I'm in China. :)

    If it hasn't got any Peking Opera, I don't want to know.

    According to whom, the company that invented and strictly licenses MQA, Meridian Audio? I did read somewhere that Linn Products(another high-end audio manufacturer) doesn't like MQA at all. Maybe because they have their own proprietary format with DRM?

    AFAIK locking down music to proprietary formats with DRM has been a fail so far, e.g. music sold as WMA with Microsoft "Plays for Sure".

    Thing is for me, I usually listen to music when I'm out and about and travelling, like I'm currently in a hotel in Beijing for the week. And in July I will be in the UK. August will be in Mongolia and Russia. So I always need my music to be like local. :D It's all on my smart-phone, as a mixture of MP3, AAC, Vorbis and FLAC.
     
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    These days most of my listening is via headphones (Koss Porta-Pro), which are way better than their very modest price would suggest. I listen to CDs, 320K MP3s and FM radio. UK DAB is dire 64K stereo or even 32K mono. one of the better stations transmits in 80K mono which could be OK, but is horribly compressed.
     
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