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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by cb526, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. cb526

    cb526 Member
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    I keep reading that people are certain that the Marquee will never see ICS because Sprint has decided to EOL it, but I don't think it's really a closed case.

    The Optimus Black (of which the Marquee and other similar phones are variants of), which as best I can tell is no longer available directly from European providers, will have an ICS update available to it if LG is to be believed. Given LG's history with updates, that could mean it might be released in 2018, but they've still said that it will get the update.

    There's still a chance for official ICS on the Marquee, however small it may be.

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  2. nosajsam

    nosajsam Newbie

    ok..but even if there is, whats the point?? what will be the benefit?? ICS was made for a device w/ a dual core processor. The Marquee's single core operating system most likely will not benefit much.

    What does ICS have that you want & can't get w/ this phone?? A different look/interface??

    With the EOL announcement, the only updates I see this phone ever getting would be Gingerbread or Network enhancements, bug issues, etc. Not a major OS update or overhaul like ICS.

    I still say don't hold your breath.
  3. Bionic Chronic

    Bionic Chronic Android Enthusiast

    I was telling a couple others the same thing.. I don't see much happening as far as anything official, by the way The Marquee is on 2.3.4 Gingerbread. Wasn't sure if you meant updates to Gingerbread or being updated to Gingerbread. Either way I would like to see if it is somehow possible to upgrade it to 4G LTE when Boost Launches it.. I don't know if it would be a different modem or not though. Though I figure by the time I switch, Gingerbread will be as popular as Cupcake or Eclair, and ICS will be the new GB. Haha.
  4. nosajsam

    nosajsam Newbie

    Yes, I meant updates to Gingerbread

    did they?? I don't remember seeing anything official there

    they JUST rolled out Gingerbread for the Optimus Black in late January. Again, that phone will see very little improvement if any w/ ICS
  5. hoovhartid

    hoovhartid Lurker

    Gingerbread (GB) and Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) platforms differ on a technical level. What you need to ask yourself is....Will you go for the new (less stable) User Interface (UI) features on ICS or will you prioritise stability and stay on Gingerbread?

    It is well-known that Ice Cream Sandwich is more intensive in terms of memory usage. As smartphones become more capable, applications are becoming more advanced, which means that they require more CPU power, run more network activities and use more RAM. On the other hand, ICS brings a refined UI and some nice new features.

    In ICS, the activity manager has a completely new UI, where all running apps are shown as thumbnails in a list. To close an activity, you can call it out of the list. ICS also introduces a face recognition app as a way to unlock the phone, called Face Unlock. Face Unlock uses the front-facing camera and advanced object recognition algorithms.

    The contact list will show more information about the contacts, including updates from social networks. In the calendar, color coding has been added and it is now possible to zoom. There is also support for a new type of voicemail that is more visual, offering transcriptions of voice messages.

    All of this translates to more resources being used...
    When it comes to ICS, it's a major upgrade of Android, and there are a lot of things that have changed compared to the Gingerbread release. Some of these changes affect the performance and stability of the system, for example by using more CPU power and RAM. ICS was developed with Galaxy Nexus in mind, which is based on a TI platform with dual-core processor and 1GB RAM. Literally double the hardware available on the Marquee. LG would have to adapt ICS to run on the Marquee and build on a single-core processor platform utilizing half the amount RAM ICS was built around. This means that in some cases, the resource usage in ICS will impact the performance of the system and the user experience might not be as good as when running on Gingerbread.

    In a 512MB RAM smartphone like the Marquee, about a third is used for functions that require a dedicated memory slot to operate fast enough. The remaining space, which is at least 340MB, is reserved for the Linux user space, as required in the Android Compatibility Definition Document (CDD). Within the Linux user space, functions like the activity manager and Home screen app are running.

    Another interesting thing is that many apps use slightly more RAM in ICS. For example, the web browser is quite intensive, and generally uses 20-30MB more in ICS compared to Gingerbread. All in all, there are a lot of changes that together result in greater RAM requirement.

    When running low on RAM, typically with less than approximately 40MB left, the activity manager will start to close processes according to priority. At first, idle background activities are killed. The last thing to be closed down is the foreground activity.

    Processes that are closed will obviously have to be restarted when the user enters the app again, which takes time and slows the system down.

    Another change in ICS compared to Gingerbread is that Google has moved a lot of the SQL handling from the native to the Java layer. Studies have showed that the read and write operations to the SQL database takes longer time, which slows down the apps. Many applications perform a lot of SQL operations when started, which greatly impacts the start-up time.

    If an operation takes too long, there is a risk of getting an Application Not Responding (ANR) as a result. An ANR occurs when an application doesn't answer an intent within a certain time limit. In case of intent, the time out is set to five seconds. For the input event, such as screen touch or button click, it's ten seconds. This can result in a user experience that is perceived as slower and less stable, due to longer response times and increased ANRs.

    Yet another change in ICS, is that the graphics hardware acceleration is on by default for most apps. Hardware acceleration means that the GPU is used to render graphics, which enables a smooth user interface. However, it also results in a need to load additional graphic libraries for certain apps, which makes them use even more RAM.

    Tests on applications showed that the Settings app consumed 1-2MB more RAM, and actually took longer time to start with HW acceleration, compared to without. Once the app is running, the UI is HW accelerated, but unless the app performs advanced graphics, the user will not see the difference.

    Another effect of the hardware acceleration is that it can make the battery drain faster in some cases. An example of this is video playback, where the hardware acceleration requires every video frame to be run through the Graphics Processing Unit (GPU), thus making the system use more power than it would have without HW acceleration.

    The bottom line is that while it is possible to run ICS on a single-core device (like the nexus S or LG Marquee), the user experience will depreciate in the process.

    Your best bet?

    Look into the UI aspects you like about ICS and find their Gingerbread equivalent.

    for example..like the face unlock feature in ICS? there's an apk for that;

    want to unlock the phone while launching into the camera like in ICS?
    check out the Go Locker ICS Theme for gingerbread.

    you can make your gingerbread phone look like ICS without the added hassle of performance lag.
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  6. realizm

    realizm Well-Known Member

    I think if the Black or any similar LG phone gets ics the marquee will get a cm9 port. You have to realize there are many Marquees floating around for boost and sprint. Most of these people just got their marquee and are happy with it. I intend on keeping my for a while. I love this phone! Also any phone that has gingerbread can theoretically have ics. The development of this phone is growing everyday. The biggest victory for Marquee owners would be a CM7 port. Cyanogenmod is the greatest thing an Android can have. Aside from transforming your phone it embodies the beauty of open source development. Its also an advantage Android users have over the silly Hipster fruit company.
    Ultimately I think marquee owners will get cm9 but not for a while..cm7 hopefully is just around the corner.

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The LG Marquee release date was October 2011. Features and Specs include a 4.0" inch screen, 5MP camera, 512GB RAM, processor, and 1500mAh battery.

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