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Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by joesteel, Aug 14, 2011.

  1. joesteel

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    Hi All,

    I have copied music from my PC to the phone via the Kies software and by directly copying files to a particular directory on the phone. I dont have a micro sd card at the moment.

    When I copy via Kies, the data related to the music appears to be copied successfully. EG Say I have a bunch of Elvis songs and they have the genre 50s60s associated to them.

    After I cut the connection, media scanner runs and appears to overwrite the data. EG the genre changes from 50s60s to Alternative/Indie.

    It looks like the media scanner is doing some sort of look up and overwriting the info.

    If this is correct, how do I stop it?

    I cant confirm right now, but I think it moves the music to another location. If this is true, will this happen if I get a micro sd card and place a lot of music on it. I dont want it to be copied to the phone.

    Thanks for your help. I havent been able to find this issue on any of the forums.

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    i dont think anything should change. media scanner just checks for new files or deleted/moved files etc. it should not move ur files to another location, or it shouldnt change any data either. is ur music in mp3?

    btw, i notice u said u used Kies. i have never used kies to sync anything (havent used kies. period) but i assume its the same. i use itunes agent to sync directly from itunes..
     
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    I cant confirm the moving, I'll check that tonight, but the info related to the music appears to change.

    When I use the Kies method, I can see the correct genre on the music on the phone. Ie it matches the PC.

    After the media scan runs, I open up the music player and the songs are under another genre. When I connect the phone again to the PC, Kies shows the new genre.

    I havent tried copying from the phone to PC again to confirm whether the data was updated or whether the phone over writes when displaying???
     
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    well it sounds like a problem with Kies. maybe there's a way to fix it, that someone can help u with.. otherwise i'd recommend ditching kies and using another app. doubletwist is a great app, even if u dont use itunes
     
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    Ive ordered a micro sd card. I'll see if the same problem happens when I use that as my target.

    Perhaps when I copied the files directly to the phone (ie not via Kies), I put it in a directory that was 'owned' by something else and it chose to update the files?!?!?! IE maybe where I put it can affect the behaviour.

    I dont know if there are some settings related to media scanner?!?!? Maybe I am wrong in assuming that it changed something.
     
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    it shoudnt make a difference whether u copy it onto internal sd card (the phone's built in memory) or an external sd card.. if u manually copied it into a directory, just create a folder called Music and copy everything there. should work fine after that :)
     
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    Something nutty going on for sure.

    Created a directory called Music on the phone and copied over a couple folders of music.

    Did the copy and via explorer verfied that the genre was ok after copying. It was.

    After the media scanner ran, it updated the files. I looked via explorer after the scan and it was updated. ie different genre.
     
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    I have the same problems. It really seems that Media Scanner updates MP3 tags, i.e. also Genre in my case. I did not use Kies and have copied the MP3's "by hand" to the microSD card. I have checked the original MP3's on my Windows PC and tags there are OK.

    Furthermore, things are getting even weirder! I have installed iTag on my Galaxy S2 phone to check what's wrong with tags. I have opened a few songs and there was the correct genre (e.g. Metal) in the tag! But when I open, for instance, WinAmp on my phone to play songs for Metal genre, there is no such genre to select from, because Metal genre was automatically converted to Rock.

    Damn... Could someone please explain what is going on??? This is really frustrating! :mad:
     
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    I'm having the exact same problem - something is changing the genre of my songs. Have you guys found any more info? FWIW, I manually copied my music files to the media directory on my phone via USB. The files are right where I put them, nothing has changed. The tag info also appears to be correct, and yet it does not show the correct genre despite having the correct tag. The problem occurs in all music apps - PowerAMP, WinAmp, MIUI Music Player, native Music Player, etc. so the problem must be at the device level, not the app level.
     
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    Nope, it's not that. Every single discussion about this topic has at some point ended up to the discussion you are referring to - but the problem really is not there.

    I have exactly this same problem: from my library of some 1400 songs, a random sample of 400 songs are moved under wrong genre as soon as I unhook my phone and Media Scanner does its "magic". And, these songs have every possible variety of ID3v1, ID3v2.3 and ID3v2.4 tags in them. I think I have tried every single thing now: delete tags, rewrite them, change them, even use a "compatibility" mode for the tags of these songs in foobar2000 prior to moving them to my Galaxy SII.

    The same result every time:
    - the files show the correct genre in my PC
    - the files show the correct genre after I've transferred them to my phone but not yet unhooked Kies/USB cable
    - after I unhook my phone from PC, the phone informs that it now runs Media Scanner to my files

    ...and, after it's run, those "faulty" songs have once again mystically been screwed up: ID3 genre tag has been changed to something completely irrelevant to the songs.

    This bug is killing me. Doesn't anyone have a clue as to what's going on?
     
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    All of my "Hardcore" genre tags have been changed to either "Rock" or "Dance & DJ" - there doesn't seem to be any pattern to which one they have been changed to.

    Hadn't really noticed it as I listen to music mostly through Spotify. I don't care so long as the artist/album tags don't change :D
     
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    Well some seem to have as well for me, so beware.
     
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    Has anyone found a solution to this yet???

    Only had my S2 a few days and this issue is ruining what was turning out to be a great device!!!

    I have used my phone as an MP3 player almost everyday for years - normally playing by genre and my old nokia could manage it!!!
     
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    ive been trying to sync my music for the past week and the media scanner is def doing something. i have tried just copying the music over and when the media scanner runs some of the music disappears from the device altogether.

    it shouldn't be a tag issue either as i have different tags for some songs using tagscanner and mp3tag. this has improved the amount of songs don't get the <unknown> artist tag...

    i have used windows media player, doubletwist, winamp, kies and simply just copying the folder all with the same result.

    is there no way of customizing how the scanner works? im guessing if it were possible to turn it off it wouldn't see the music
     

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