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Discussion in 'Politics and Current Affairs' started by Tommy78, Jul 24, 2011.

  1. Tommy78

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    It seems to me that if there ever is an altercation where the police were to get involved in an almost any situation, that a woman would always be believed over a man. In other words, if there is some kind of so called domestic violence call, no matter who actually calls, that more than likely the man is going to go to jail before the woman ever will. All the woman has to do is say that "he hit me" and that is the end of the story no matter what actually happened. Does anyone agree with this? No matter if you agree or not, this is a fact the majority of the time.
     

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    I wasn't aware of such a "fact."
     
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    youre looking at it from the wrong perspective......... I would agree that in most cases of domestic violence the male is taken to jail...... but there are many other factors involved.....

    most cases of domestic violence the male is the violent party

    most cases where the woman is the violent party the male will refuse to press charges for fear of public shame (no guy wants to admit he needed the police to stop a girl from beating him)

    most cases that dont have cut and dry evidence such as black eyes/ bruises/ wounds etc will never make it to trial...... the charges will be dropped or reduced

    and in many if not most states now the laws clearly state if theres any reason to believe (such as victim statement) either party touched the other in any way ..... 1 or both parties are required to be taken to jail

    there are other factors as well but I think those are enough to make it clear

    so if youre trying to say theres some discriminatory practice of always taking the male regardless of the circumstance..... I would have to totally disagree
     
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    You know it makes kind of sense. Let us look at some numbers.

    MenWeb - Men's Issues: Battered Men Honestly, it does look like an ok site and a quick google search reveals about the same numbers

    So about 65% of the time, the male beats the woman. About 35% of the time the woman beats the male. I would guess that mutual combat is in there somewhere. If you where a beating, I mean, betting person, you would bet the male beat the female by just statistics.

    But honestly, I never have been any where near a domestic dispute, nor really have any first hand knowledge of anything like that.

    Would love to ask how you know this? Because it is pretty interesting that you would come in stating facts about this, with out providing background.

    But saying that, looking at the statistics, it does seem the majority of the time, the male is responsible for the domestic problems. Not saying that the female is 100% innocent. Because to be honest, your partner hits you once, you leave and never come back.

    if a fight ever gets to the point where someone is arrested, it is time to end the relationship. Because, and trust me I have had some bad relationships, went it goes from talking to yelling, you are not helping the relationship. If it goes from yelling to arrest, you are toxic for each other.
     
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    but i bet the make-up sex is AWESOME!!!
     
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    Man have I had moments where I wanna be part of that 65%.... Never have though :)
     
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    Ah yes, video games, where you can find and beat on women without fear of going to the slammer (gta?.) lol, yea it helps getting out everything that's inside right? Just put your bosses face on whoever you happen to be blowing up at the moment :)
     
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    What is this statement based on?
     
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    This isn't something I would be posting on a public forum but to each his (her) own...
     
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    I would hope that's just a slight exaggeration :p at least that's how I took it
     
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    I am sure it is. Still, not something I would want my login credentials tied to. JMO.
     
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    Just saying, what you say can come back and bite you in the ass. I was pretty certain that this wasn't your pre-admission of you running into work tomorrow with an AK47 and mowing down everyone you can before someone takes you out. :D
     
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    This thread about men's rights wrt police seems to be running its course rather quickly. If it gets back on topic it won't get locked. ;)
     
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    My experiences (not directly, though). When a woman says that she's been hit, there is nothing that you or anyone else can do to stop the cuffs from coming out. No one is going to listen to you anymore and you're going to jail. Period. At least that's how it is my state.
     
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    But the same is true the other way round. If a guy says the woman threw something at him, the cuffs come out and the woman gets arrested.

    Sorry Frisco but it has honestly ran it course. Anyone that googles the main topic will see that domestic abuse happens and both sides get arrested.

    In some states, just calling the cops, someone has to go to jail.
     
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    Only if the woman doesn't claim to be hit, if they both do, the guy goes.
     
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    By law, and yes I googled it, BOTH of them go to jail if they both claim they where hit.
     
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    It's actually not true. The woman comes out crying saying she's been hit, they talk to her first, then they talk to the guy and even though he has also been hit, he goes. I've seen it first hand, twice. They feel sorry for the woman every time.
     
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    To some degree I think it depends on who started it. I have seen the opposite (a woman being taken away because she hit her man). You just can't state absolutes. If things played out the way you state, an injustice was done. Plain and simple. Are we talking about laws/rights or are we talking about how police officers don't always uphold them properly? Two different things IMO.
     
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    Obviously I'm talking about the human nature of it all. Sometimes other factors other than law are in play.
     

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