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Motorola is locking the Droid X... no Rooting allowed?

Discussion in 'Android Devices' started by HtcEvoLemon, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. HtcEvoLemon

    HtcEvoLemon Well-Known Member
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    There is an article on androidandme.com saying that Droid X will have a locked bootloader, and you won't be able to put custom roms on this phone. Is this true?

    I don't root or custom roms, i'm just curious why place limits on people who don't mind voiding their warranty.


    had to do a quick edit, the article says no custom roms... doesn't mention rooting. aren't they the same?

    so ya. I guess you can't put a custom rom on droid x, it was confirmed by motorola themselves... here is the link to motorola confirming the news.
    http://community.developer.motorola...s-Android-Handsets/bc-p/4290#M432title=Custom
     

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  2. KiLo11

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    root: possibly
    custom roms: big NO
     
  3. T66T

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    for now at least
     
  4. KiLo11

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    i can see root for droid x but custom roms maybe in 10years lol
    milestone should be a example it has no custom roms fully functioning for it
     
  5. hawkijustin

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    Whats the point of having a android phone thats locked down? Why not just buy a iphone then?
     
  6. HtcEvoLemon

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    I think motorola confirmed.. no custom roms for droid x
     
  8. Travisimo

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    Because the vast majority of consumers who buy either the iPhone or an Android phone do not Jailbreak, root, and/or use custom roms. And when you evaluate stock iOS against stock Android, the latter is still much more flexible, open, and customizable.

    So granted, this might not be the phone for those who like to tinker even further, but you really can't blame Verizon and the rest of the carriers for doing this. We might not like it, but they are protecting their business model from those who would use these tools to get free tethering, for example. We can certainly argue the value of the products the carriers offer, as well as the screwed-up North American cell phone market... but all of the carriers are going to start doing this as Android becomes more popular. At least they aren't locking out side-loading yet like AT&T is doing.
     
  9. Greavous

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    All I have to say about the locked down OS is ....
    Fine, have it your way. But, I expect EVERYTHING to work as intended. Additionally, should something be discovered to not work properly I expect it to be addressed and an update released.
     
  10. kishin14

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    Prepared to be disappointed.
     
  11. Piiman

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    or what? :rolleyes:
     
  12. TambourineMan

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    To me this is the killer problem for the Droid X and is what I would have expected from Verizon.
     
  13. D13

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    The OS isn't locked down, Android is still as open as ever. Its Motorola who chose to not give us access to change it how we like it.:(
     
  14. BlueIce5249

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    If this is what I can expect from Motorola phones in the future, I won't be getting a Motorola. That really sucks because I've never had a problem with Moto. But if I wanted a phone that prevented me from doing what I wanted, I'd get an iPhone. Looks like it's HTC or Google phones for me from now on.
     
  15. D13

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    Yeah somewhere they said they would be encrypting bootloaders for now on.:(
     
  16. ChickenStrip

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    Hi all, new to recent smartphones, coming from a BB Curve 8300.

    Does this mean that if your phone gets jacked up, that you cannot flash (or whatever you call it) to go back to a "vanilla" or stock state? Meaning like you just opened the box and turned your phone on?
     
  17. D13

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    Well normally you are not the one flashing anything, that is done by verizon or moto. And this would cause you to not be able to flash custom roms that a developer made.
     
  18. Flying_Hellfish

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    ^^^^ This.... To me this isn't a Verizon decision. Most, if not all, smartphone manufacturers do what they want with their software and just have the carrier "approve it" but they wouldn't suggest changes like asking them to lock/encrypt the bootloader. I'm not sure why many people keep blaming Verizon.
     
  19. trophynuts

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    this doesn't bother me at all as i'm not a rooter....however. i wouldn't lose faith that eventually one day it will be cracked.
     
  20. ChickenStrip

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    So when you phone gets so mucked up beyond repair, you are just stuck, with trying to remove each application/change settings?

    There is no "go back to square 1" (like a re-image in the PC world) method for the user unless u take it to Verizon?
     
  21. D13

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    You can do a factory reset, but I couldn't imagine someone being able to muck-up your phone beyond repair unless, you had the ability to root.:)
     
  22. kwest12

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    I don't want to steal your thunder, but at the same time, there are two threads out there that discuss this topic in extreme detail.

    1) http://androidforums.com/motorola-d...ootloader-flashing-roms-abandon-all-hope.html

    ^ You'll find OP is organized with a bunch of links and descriptions of those links. This will give you some ideas about what it means to have an encrypted boot loader (which it does appear we are dealing with).

    2) http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/121449-rumors-abound-efuse.html

    ^ This discusses the most recent discovery of something called eFuse which is a type of very sophisticated protection. It seems that this may seriously derail any attempts to gain root.

    I will guarantee that these two threads will answer every question you have... that is if we have the answer available to us. :)

    EDIT: Those of you assuming that your ventures with previous phones apply may be sadly mistaken. It's unlikely you've been dealing eFuse technology which seems to have the potential to brick your phone: if that happens, only the manufacturer can reset it.

    I'm going to request that this thread be closed b/c it is just a duplicate of the threads already out there. HtcEvoLemon, it would help if you actually reported your 1st post (http://androidforums.com/report.php?p=1133164) and ask the mods to close this thread.
     
  23. supersaki

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    It's been awhile since I was on stock, but I'm pretty sure you'll still have the option to wipe data/factory reset.
     
  24. D13

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    I know someone needs to make an ***official*** thread and merge everything we learned and let the other ones fall to page 2. lol:D
     
  25. ChickenStrip

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    sorry, repost
     

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