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  1. Tal

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    I am thinking of getting the Galaxy S2.

    I currently have the iPhone. All the music I have on it was added from CD or MP3 tracks I have on my PC.

    The tracks off of my CD's were ripped through iTunes with the Apple Lossless Encoder, which results in the music tracks been in m4a format.

    ALL of the music I have on my iPhone is still stored on my computer in the location iTunes uses.

    I'm wondering which is the easiest method of basically importing all my music onto my Galaxy S2 and if possible having all the cover art remain.

    I've a feeling that it won't be a simple procedure knowing Apple and iTunes :eek:


    Any help much appreciated :)
     

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  2. El Presidente

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    You can either use a piece of free software on the PC called doubletwist or there's an app on the market called iSyncr which does the job.
     
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    Thanks for the help its much appreciated :)
     
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    I noticed on the Samsung website, that there is a program that can be downloaded called Kies.

    I was wondering if you know if its possible to do what I am wanting to do via the Kies program?

    Thanks again :)
     
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    As far as I'm aware, Kies is the software Samsung uses for managing the phone via the PC, similar to HTC Sync and Nokia Suite.

    Given the way iTunes stores music, you need specialist software to make it playable in non idevices/players (so I'm told). I don't think Kies would give you the ability to do this. In saying that, there's no harm in installing Kies anyway as Samsungs phone updates are delivered via it and not OTA.

    I'm sorry if that's a vague answer, but I've not dealt with Samsung phones in any great depth so I'm basing this on stuff I've picked up around the forums. :(
     
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    Thanks for the help.

    Has far as I could see on the tutorial on the Kies program. It mentions about been able to import iTunes playlists onto the S2, but it makes no mention of if/how you import songs over.

    I'll have a look around and see if there is any forum's for the Kies program and ask on there. Thanks again :)
     
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    Not a problem, hopefully someone on here will chime in and be a bit more specific than I have! :)
     
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    I've downloaded the PC software doubletwist to have a look at it and I am impressed with it.

    When I loaded up doubletwist and went into the Edit menu/Preferences, then clicked on the library tab and choose the folder that current my iTunes music for my iPhone is stored.

    After this, all the music from this folder appeared in doubletwist.

    Now some of the music plays and some does not from within doubletwist. The music that plays OK is in MP3 format and the music that does not play is in m4a format Apple Lossless encoder. All of the music I have in the location where iTunes stores it was either off of CD or from MP3 tracks that I have saved on my folder, I can confirm that none of the music has DRM on it.

    Am I write in assuming that once I connect my Samsung Galaxy S2 up, all the music will be added to it, and in the process of adding them, doubletwist will convert all the m4a files to MP3?

    If this is the case, could you tell me what bitrate doubletwist uses when converting the m4a to MP3?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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    As far as I'm aware, pre circa 2009, Apple added DRM to anything that was bought/ripped via iTunes. This meant that you could not use anything other than iTunes or an iDevice to play it. That could be the reason some songs work and some don't.

    There's more info in this thread.
     
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    Thanks for the help.

    All my music was added 2010-2011, so with this been post 2009, would this not have DRM?
     
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    Shouldn't have thought so.

    I'm about to start work, but let me have a google later on and I'll get back to you.
     
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    Thanks very much El Presidente, really appreciate the help, and appologize for all the questions, its just I know nothing about Android etc and want to make sure I know enough for when I get my Galaxy S2.

    Thanks again
     
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    No worries mate, that's what we're here for.

    Have a read of this. Do the tracks you want to transfer have "protected" underneath them in iTunes?
     
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    Don't know if you've sorted your issue yet but was trying since April to sort this issue.
    Kies will copy the music but you'll lose majority of song info, i.e artist/album/artwork etc its completely random and, for this task, useless. I've emailed Samsung umpteen times, they're apparently working on something, yeh right!
    Double twist I found random aswell.

    Download isyncr, you click on the playlistis you want to transfer and there you go, artists, albums, artwork no problems nothing missing on mine so far!!
    It annoyed me for ages that you couldn't do this easier but isyncr is definitely worth it, think it costs £1.99.

    Hope it helps
     
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    Thanks for the help.

    I checked a few of the m4a songs and a few others which are in MP3 format (I didn't check them all cause there is over 500 songs) and all the ones I checked (both m4a and MP3) did not have protected shown when I right clicked the track and chose get info.
     
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    I haven't sorted it yet, cause I won't be getting a Galaxy S2 for a few weeks yet. I am just wanting to find things out for when I get it. :)

    I'll make a note of isyncr, has I am compiling a list of useful apps that I have seen mentioned on here.

    Most of the music I am wanting to transfer from iTunes, is not in playlists, all the music is shown when I click on the music bar which is shown down the left handside in the library section.

    Will isyncr work when music is not in playlist?

    Also, if I use the isyncr app to put the music onto the S2, is it possible to use the native music player that is on the S2 or would I only be able to use the music player in isyncr?

    Thanks for the help, its much appreciated :)
     
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    I was too lazy to read the entire thread but the short answer is that doing this is a giant shag and doesn't work at all well.

    The problems are that Android doesn't support m4a (Apple Lossless) but m4a (AAC) is supported. Also Android doesn't support ID3 V2.4 tags so a lot of metadata won't transfer properly.

    After a LOT of pain and research, I ended up doing the following.

    1. Converted all Apple Lossless tracks to mp3 (I wasn't at all happy having to do this but there appeared to be no real option) - just sort by type, right click and make mp3 copy, delete all the Apple Lossless tracks
    2. create a dedicated playlist for your phone, add the music that you want on your phone into this playlist (I have far too much music to fit on my phone, if you don't it's easier)
    3. use iSyncr to sync that playlist
    4. install MediaFix from the Market, that will fix your messed up tags

    It's not pretty but it did work. DoubleTwist seems to have problems with album art whereas iSyncr didn't.
     
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    That made me chuckle.

    Thanks for that.
     
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    Thanks for the help lotus.

    Did you do the above in iTunes, because I can't see any option for me to convert to MP3, when I click on a m4a track?
     
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    I've found it now. I needed to change the import CD setting from Apple Lossless to MP3.
     
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    I've just finished converting the m4a files to MP3 320 kbps. Hopefully this should make things easier for adding my songs on to the S2. Thanks again.
     
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    iSyncr and iSyncr wifi. +1
     
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    I fired up Kies on my PC yesterday and it updated, the new version seems to be very similar to itunes -which is nice
     
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    Isyncr is merely used to transfer the files it is not a media player. It just copies music to phone. You can play music in any media player, whether one in phone or one u download.
    From what i can tell it picks up any playlists on pc then you select and transfer, when its on phone you can delete playlists if u want and just have as library like u have.
    I haven't tried copying whole library, i just did couple of random playlists, worst case scenario you'll just have to create one and drag & drop everything into it to transfer onto phone. Like i said, when on phone (music player dependant) you can just delete playlist and have the music as a library!
     

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