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  1. Stuntman

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    I've been using an Android phone (as my primary personal phone) for three and a half years. I currently have a Galaxy S3 for almost 2 years. My work phone was a BlackBerry and it was upgraded to an iPhone 5S a month ago. Although I mostly use the iPhone for work, I took the opportunity to compare some things on the iPhone with what I use on my Galaxy S3. I didn't do much on my old BB other than phone calls, texts and email and I was not very impressed, so my impressions of the iPhone will be from a long time Android user's point of view.

    The first thing I notice is the size. Going from a 4.8" screen to a 4" screen is a significant change. You see less text on the iPhone and images are going to be smaller. On the other hand, it is easier to reach all 4 corners of the screen with your thumb when using the phone with only one hand. My previous phone was 3.7". When deciding on what phone to upgrade to, I was actually looking for a not so large phone before ultimately deciding on the Galaxy S3. Now, I don't think I can go smaller.

    The one feature that I really looked forward to trying is the fingerprint unlock. I currently use the pattern unlock because it is the fastest way for me to unlock the phone and it offers some security. I absolutely love the fingerprint unlock of the iPhone 5S. It works reliably almost every single time and is more convenient than pattern unlock. I also used face unlock on my Transformer tablet. Face unlock is not as reliable. The lighting has to be right. If there are any bright lights or bright background behind me, the face unlock fails. The fingerprint unlock is the one iPhone feature I really want.

    The iPhone keyboard is the same keyboard I remember seeing on the original iPhone. I was able to type fairly well on it. It wasn't difficult for me to type on the iPhone keyboard considering it is different than the one I currently use on my Android phone (Kii Keyboard). What I did have difficult with was numbers and punctuation. Kii keyboard makes it easy to type numbers because the layout includes number keys. Punctuation is easier as well because I can just long tap a key to get the symbol. The punctuation and other symbol is written on each key so I know which key to long press. I'm used to the many Android keyboards I can choose from with so many features such as multiple layouts and gesture typing. The iPhone keyboard works, but just feels so out of date.

    The apps that I primarily use on the iPhone to compare with Android are Pulse (a news reader), Google+, Yahoo! Weather and Gas Buddy (gas prices). These apps are on both my iPhone and Galaxy. Default apps I use or have tried are Safari, Mail, Message, Calendar and Apple Maps.

    When using these various apps, what I notice most on the iPhone is that before a page completes loading, I can often start scrolling. This is most prevalent in the web browser and Pulse. On the Galaxy, if the page hasn't finished loading, there is a delay before the page scrolls or you cannot scroll at all. I like the fact that if I happen to finish reading what is on the page, I can immediately scroll down some more on the iPhone. The effect is most noticeable on more complex web pages I am viewing. On some apps like Google+, I don't notice it much on my Galaxy.

    In terms of app quality, I have heard it mentioned many times that the app quality is better on iOS than Android. The apps that I use on both devices (Pulse, G+, Yahoo! Weather and Gas Buddy) I feel this is not the case at all. Google+ is better on my Galaxy. I would expect this since it is made by Google. Pulse, Yahoo! Weather and Gas Buddy are independent of Google. Of these three, Yahoo! Weather is about the same, but Pulse and Gas Buddy is better on Android.

    Yahoo! Weather has some minor differences between the iOS and Android version. The differences are really minor and overall, both work equally well. I didn't understand why there were differences. It just looks like the developers just overlooked something on each version.

    Pulse is one of the apps I use the most. The Android version is superior because it has a feature that makes it more convenient on the Android version. That feature is to set the default to display the articles of a particular feed in web mode. The iOS version does not have this feature and I have to press extra buttons. I'm not sure why it doesn't have this feature, but I find it to be a glaring omission.

    Gas Buddy also has a glaring omission in the iOS version. On the Android version, I have a list of favourite gas stations. There is no such feature on iOS. This makes it highly inconvenient as I have a points card for only certain gas stations and only go to those gas stations.

    I only have a short list of apps that I put on my work phone. I picked these apps because they are ones that I use often and are ones I can find on both iOS and Android. This certainly isn't a sufficient sample size to conclusively determine whether or not app quality is better on iOS or Android. Other than missing features and just different UI conventions, I just don't see much of a difference between the app quality on the two platforms.

    The UI conventions are different between the two platforms. The one thing that I really miss from Android when using the iPhone is the back button. After using the iPhone for a while, I realise how much I use the back button and how much I miss it. On iOS, the way you go back to a previous screen is highly inconsistent. Depending on the app and where in the app, the way you go back to the previous screen is different. You often see a button that has a lable of the previous screen or a button to close the current screen. However, these buttons are not on the same place all the time. Often they are on the top left (which makes it easy to reach on a smaller phone). Sometimes it is the top right or elsewhere. The way you go back/close the current screen is to try to scroll beyond the bottom of the screen. Drag the screen up and release. Sometimes you drag the screen right from the centre of the screen. Sometimes you swipe inward from the left edge of the screen. There are just so many ways that even after a month, I still get mixed up and use the wrong gesture sometimes. On Android, the single back button is used.

    For other UI differences, they are just different and just takes some getting used to. I'm used to Android, but other than the back function, I feel I can get used to it.

    There are a number of things I can do on Android that I cannot on iOS. These have been discussed many times already in great detail and there is no need for me to rehash it.

    I did take this opportunity to really use an iPhone to see if I would like the iPhone enough to consider one when it is time to upgrade my Galaxy. Unlike trying one at a store, I got to install some apps and sign in with my own account and spend a lot more time with it. After my experience with the iPhone, I would not choose to get one at this time if I have to replace my current Galaxy. As much as I like fingerprint unlock and being able to scroll web pages without waiting, I feel that I would lose a lot of other funcitonality. I would not have a choice of using my favourite keyboard, have no choice of default apps, no widgets, etc. For me, the disadvantages of iOS just outweigh the benefits.
     

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    I used an iPhone once... It was okay at first, then it got annoying. Apps would always crash and it was slow. Have some of the same problems on my moto g also. But that's more of a Boost Mobile problem than Motorola's.
     
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    My wife got her iPhone 5s at the same time I got my Galaxy S5 so I know a lot about it too as I've played with her phone a bunch after she went to bed at night. I'm a night owl.
    Some things I liked about iPhone but a whole bunch more I like about the S5. The main one is once you've gotten use the the S5 screen size, you CANNOT go back to a smaller screen. Also not having a back button is a real deal killer. Galaxy S5 is the real deal.
     
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    My impression regarding the stability of the Galaxy S3 compared to the iPhone 5S is that they are about the same. On the GS3, I've had the rare crash over the 2 years I have owned it. On the iP5S, I do recall an app crashing this past month. Overall, both are rock solid.

    My previous Android phone was the HTC Desire Z. I would say that the DZ was less stable and had noticeably more issues than the GS3.

    My wife has the iPhone 4S. I don't use it at all, but she has had the odd issue that I would have to help her fix. Overall, I think it is very stable as well.
     
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    thanks for the good write up.

    I just wanted to note 1 thing. you are comparing the latest greatest iphone with a mid-to-low end android phone (GS3 is over 2 yrs old; still a great phone; but that is a long time in tech lifecycle).

    so.. that might have something to do with the ... scrolling in some apps. maybe.
     
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    I'm aware that the devices were released almost a year and a half apart. These were the two devices I had access to. Overall, I did feel the GS3 held up well over the iP5S. I did compare scrolling between the two phones in various apps. The iP5S was a little smoother than the GS3, but not by much. It's only loading some web pages in Pulse and Chrome where there was a really big difference. It seems on the iP5S, I could scroll immediately.

    The GS3 is a great phone. I've had it for almost 2 years and plan to use it for another year. Just bought a new extended battery for it as my old one seems to be getting old. I was tempted to get the Nexus 5 and OnePlus One, but my GS3 works so well that it made no sense to spend the money on a new phone.
     
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    I think I did read it way back when. One thing that he did touch on that I agree with is the battery life. I didn't mention it in my write up because I didn't get around to making an accurate battery comparison. My GS3 battery seems to be getting old and I bought a new extended battery for it. Overall, I do find the battery life on the iPhone 5S to be noticeably greater than the Galaxy S3.
     
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    Comparing a GS3 battery with a new tech device like I5S is probably not a good comparison. From what i've heard the battery life in the SGS4 is much better than the 3 and on par with the iPhones. I still have and use my I5 daily. I am about to buy a Moto G LTE as a travel/testing/playing phone. I want to try Tmo's network out so that will allow me to do that and at the same time play around on Android again.
     
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    Let me know how T-Mo works. I'm probably going to switch soon. Getting sick of Straight Talk's BS.

    I've got my friends bombarding me with 'Buy an iPhone' after my Nexus 4 decided to play dead this morning. Thank heavens it started working again, because I can't see myself using anything else.
     
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    Big is better, right? Im considering to get Note 12.2 phone model to replace my Note 10.1 (phone model). For me, iPhone is ridiculous small, but I like big ones! Well seriously, I havent used a regular phone since 2012 and I feel I cant go back. My tablet size phone does everything I want. If I ever get smaller one, it would be smaller Note for sure - the optimized pen is a must have feature and not until Apple fix it, Apple is no-no for me. I wish companies would take Android more seriously when making new apps and devices, e.g. for education - it is still in babies shoes and hard to jump into it. Been using iPad, nice device for sure but nothing special about it and when compairing it with Note, iPad feels outdated badly. Imho. And what comes to Androin, especially to Samsung, they should give much better support. (For example Note 10.1 has still Android 4.1.2 and SNote app is incompatible with new Note devices. That is something that never should have happened in the first place, but it did.)
     
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    I actually love both platforms, I have the gs5 now and LOVE IT! I also have a 5s that's OK, the only fault to me is non removable battery and tiny screen. I'm very excited for a larger iPhone 6, I've always said a 5 inch iPhone would be the last phone I buy for a long time, and it probably will be.
     
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    what do you think all those iphone fans.. are saying now about screen size?
    year ago.. they said iphone is perfect size. and all others are stupid big.

    Jobs even said.. android is too big.. and iphone would never go big!
    if iphone 6 grows in size.. I would laugh inside.
    no.. I will laugh out loud at them!
     
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    iSheeps - just a bunch of people who are easily manipulated by a company. -> Best customers ever!
     
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    Word on the street is that the next iPhone is ditching the regular headphone jack in favor of using the lightning port. I wonder if this has something to do with their Beats acquisition. Looks like the days of buying affordable headphones for iPhones may be gone. But wait, there will be no shortage of fanboys spinning it as a great innovation.
     
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    My wife has an iPad Mini that is a hand-me-down from her mother (who got a full-sized iPad instead). It's been sitting doing nothing for several months as my wife has no interest in using it. She just uses her iPhone instead. I figured I'd just use it myself.

    I have the original Asus Eee Pad Transformer with keyboard dock. I used it for about a year, but then gradually stopped for a few reasons. First, it couldn't replace my PC 100%. It replaced it about 75%, but I still had to pull out my PC often enough that it wasn't worth using my Transformer. Second, I got a Galaxy S3 and my GS3 was just faster than the Transformer. Third, the last several times I decided to pull it out and use it, I found it to be very buggy. Sound will cut out. Home screen would disappear. I have to just reboot way too often.

    I decided to start using the iPad Mini for a few reasons. I currently just use the Transformer as a poker timer, and it is just annoying having to deal with the bugs whenever I use it. Second, my iPhone was a work phone, so I didn't want to put much personal stuff on it. I wanted to do a better comparison between Android and iOS. Third, I am interested in some of the new features of iOS 8 and want to be ready to try it when it goes live.

    I only started configuring it yesterday, so I didn't have much time to spend with it. My first impressions are similar to what I feel about my iPhone 5S and GS3 comparison. Mainly, the iPad Mini does web surfing a lot better than Android devices. Anything app specific and does not involve loading a web page is about the same on both platforms. The lack of the back button on the iPad is just something that really bugs me.

    I'm going to do a more thorough write up later after I had a chance to use the iPad Mini for a longer period of time. I think it will be more complete as I will be doing a lot more on the iPad Mini than I am willing to do on the iPhone (which is my work phone).
     
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    I have also Asus TF300T with the keyboard dock, and have to say, that is a "terrible" device. Laggy and internet is bad. I like to use my Note 10.1 with bt keyboard and mouse. Never used iphone, it is way too small, so im only compairing my Note with iPad. In my work SNote app has given alot. I do handwriing and draw sketches / formulaes and SPen is great for that.
     
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    everything i loved about iOS was sadly killed off by iOS 7. i cannot stand flat design which is why i loved the iPhone for so long. then Jony Ive had to ruin it. Samsung thankfully came to the rescue with a superior UI and product.
     
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    I used iPhone before, but after the release of iOS7 it just annoyed me all the time.
     
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    I think the OP is mainly referring to the way Web sites are rendered in browsers on Android compared to IOS. I have noticed this myself that if you start scrolling down the page before it finishes fully loading that it will frequently jump back to the top of the page after it finishes loading.
     
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    My experience is that on Android, it doesn't scroll at all on Android until some seconds later. It's like the phone is busy rendering the page and is not responsive to my scroll gestures. On iOS, I can start scrolling immediately. After the web page loads, then the scrolling is responsive again.
     
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    No that kind of issue with Note 10.1 (n8000, android 412) and stock browser, firefox or opera. I can scroll the page down and it doesnt jump back to up when fully loaded. Have to try that too with tf300...

    my only issue with android is lack of updates (but it is more Samsung issue really). Otherwise im very happy with android. While Samsung is updating their budget price devices, they have decided to let us - bought their flagship - wait updates forever! (Android 412 from january 2013 and then nothing.) This is the biggest issue for me with Anndroid (samsung) and more and more thinking about leaving the android ship when the time is to get a new tablet (phone - i never know should I call it, note 10.1, as a phone or a tablet because it is my tablet size phone. LOL)
     
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    FYI the 'back' button is in any iOS app at least as of iOS 6, in the upper left corner (about where Play Store has the new menu button) but it will not take you to the home screen.

    given that i myself used Apple stuff for so long, i still use the home button on my Samsung stuff the same way. backing one screen at a time until it goes to the launcher seems too many extra steps if you ask me. these days RAM is no longer a problem enough to back out of every screen until the launcher appears ('exit' in Android) vs. hitting home once ('minimize and keep running)
     
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    S-Sheeps - just a bunch of people who are easily manipulated by a company. -> Best customers ever! :p

    Apple, Samsung, Sony....I don't see much difference between them myself these days.

    I think unless you're a bit techy or geeky, may not appreciate the difference in smartphone OSs. As long as the phone does Facebook, gives you the news and weather, plays Temple Run or whatever. It's much more about brand loyalty and maybe the perception and image it conveys IMO....especially in China and SE Asia.
     
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    Hey Mike, does China have a smartphone company like Samsung, Korea does? I know just about everything has "made in China" written on the back anymore...

    Talking about Geeky, I'm a bit of one myself as I've built high end Desktops and did Desktop/Notebook repair for years... in fact I'm thinking of posting a Notebook post in off topics somewhere on this forum about my current system.
     

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